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Posted on 08/29/2006 6:34:02 AM PDT by NYer
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An Arab turned Catholic priest? This guy is dead....it's only a matter of time before the Fatwah comes down...
Ooops! Had to stop there. That isn't the beginning of the problem, and the problem is NOT mostly political. It's racism.
Christianity was born in the East. There are still many christians in that part of the world.
This guy is dead....it's only a matter of time before the Fatwah comes down...
Jesuit Father Samir Khalil, 68, is one of the world’s greatest experts on the Islamic and Arab world. Of Egyptian origin, he worked for years in Egypt and Lebanon. To this very day he divides his time between teachings at St. Joseph’s University in Beirut and the Pontifical Institute of Oriental Studies in Rome.
What about the Christians and non muslims being persecuted in other NON ME countries
What is the cause there
Let's see, the "right of return", 1967 borders, international peace keeping force.
Serious and groundbreaking, this is NOT.
Watch your back, Israel.
I prefer the Two-part plan for peace:
1. Kill the Islamic fascist terrorists.
2. Repeat #1 as necessary until none are left.
War has never produced lasting results.I disagree. The Norman Conquest, WWII, The American Revolutionary War, The War between the States, and even the more than a millenium of Muslim expansionist wars seem to me to have left enduring changes in world society.
Maybe I'm not understanding what he means, but as a general maxim, I think the statement is mistaken.
I agree with you. War most certainly has produced lasting results. Frankly, the further I read, the more appalled I became with Fr. Samir Khalil Samir's thinking. I would love to know what Fr. Morris thinks of this.
You evidently are not aware that there are quite a lot of Arabs who have always been Christians: 35% of Lebanese in Lebanon are Christians (and probably 60% of Lebanese world-wide are). While in the Middle East about 90% of Palestinians are Muslims, world-wide about 30% are Christians.
Most Arab Americans are Christians, with Christian ancestors stretching back to before Mohammed. My own bishop (Bp. BASIL of the (Antiochian Orthodox) Diocese of Wichita and Mid-America) is decended from ancestors in a region of Syria the Arabic name of which means 'The Valley of the Christians' because they've been holding out against the jihad since it began.
There are plenty of Arab saints, to mention, but two recent example: St. Joseph of Damascus was martyred by the Muslims in an anti-Christian pogrom in the 1860's, St. Raphael of Brooklyn, the first Orthodox bishop consecrated in the lower 48, was an Arab who studied in Russia and was sent to assist St. Tikhon (martyred by the Bolsheviks when he returned to Russia and became Patriarch of Moscow), he tirelessly travelled around the US ministering to scattered Orthodox Christians, whether of Syrian heritage or otherwise.
Don't dishonor the Arabs as a whole by assuming all of them followed the false prophet Mohammed. Besides the Christians, some Sepharic Jews are ethnically and linguistically Arabs, and some of the Marsh Arabs in Iraq are Mandeans (a sect that believes John the Baptist was the Messiah).
Our enemies are the Muslims (or Mohammedans--call them that, it annoys them), or at least those among them who are serious about jihad (the point of the President's 'religion of peace' stuff is to encourage those who aren't serious about jihad to stay that way), not the Arabs per se.
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It's a plan! I wouldn't hang in on the Vatican, but the objective is obvious, the destruction of Israel.
1. Israel withdraws to the 1967 (1949) borders and the palestinians get another state.
2. 4 million Arab Muslims emigrate to Israel.
3. Jews get to stay in the West Bank for ten years..
4. Diplomatic recognition.
5. International force deployed in Israel.
6. Build up Arab armies.
7. Empty the prisons.
8. Solve water problems. That’s why the Arabs in the region haven’t developed economically.
9. Give the Palestinians the part of Jerusalem they didn’t have in 1949
10. Create an Arab NATO.
This was plagiarized from the 2002 Saudi "Peace initiative"
Same premise: "First Israel gives away everything it has gained in all the defensive wars fought since 1948 and then we will negotiate its right to exist."
Such a deal. Not.
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And she took some sh*t for it too! She's a massage therapist in CA and that is not a community a whole lot behind things like, uh, reality.
I don't.
Allow me to translate:
1. Give up more land (1967 boarders, but a bit of adjustment)
2. Right of return to all Palistinians, and compensation from the 'international community' should be paid (reperations)
3. The J00z can stay where they are at for up to 10 years if they can live that long.
4. Recognize boarders
5. Get a UN force to enforce the boarders and not allow for weapons or bombings (because so many are JUMPING at the chance to do so in Lebanon)
6. Give aid to Palistinian Authority so they can arm-up.
7. Release prisoners (the 2 or 3 dead bodies the palistinians might still be holding on to, and the thousands of 'caught red handed' would be suicide bombers Isreal has in their jails.
8. Some UN program to run the water systems (wha?)
9. Some UN program decide who gets Jerusalem or how it should be 'shared'
10. Create an Arab Union (AU) modeled after the EU with economic and defense agreements.
Half of them are the same Pali. demands, the other half is UN fluff and kicking the can down the road IMO.
The notion of part of Jerusalem being the capital of a "Palestinian" state should be a non-starter - some of the most important holy sites for Christians are located in East Jerusalem and I trust Israel to preserve them much more than I trust the UN or a "Palestinian" state.
Nor do I. Unfortunately, the Church is split in the same way the U.S. and the world has become polarized. I'm still seething after our little traveling Polish priest wore a "Proud Member of the Religious Left" tee shirt to the church picnic a few weeks ago.
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