America's Taliban strikes again

Arkansas News Bureau ^ | 28 August 2006 | John Brummett

[edsheppa]

Anyone who would equate these people with the Taliban is a blithering, no-nothing idiot.

You're right, the Taliban were much smarter, much more successful in attaining their aims. We're fortunate these nuts aren't likely to thrive.

[Marysecretary]

Who's gonna furnish the popcorn?

[RegulatorCountry]

Oh, it goes deeper than that. The "Out of Africa" theory of human origin and migration contains a humdinger, implying that those of lower intelligence remained.

[gedeon3]

' Thus it's America's Taliban, America's Shiite theocracy.'

BS. It appears this idiot does not know much about the taliban.

[ml1954]

I'd only point to the countless threads posted to FR, with all the skull porn of which evos are so fond .. craniometrics are inevitably included. Quite the nasty, racist history behind measuring crania and attempting to deduce intelligence on that basis.

Coyoteman, have you ever heard your posting of the pictures of skulls of prehominids called 'skull porn' and racist before?

Here for all to see is a fine and almost perfect example of an anti-science post combined with the vilest of ad-hominems.

[Coyoteman]

I'd only point to the countless threads posted to FR, with all the skull porn of which evos are so fond ... craniometrics are inevitably included. Quite the nasty, racist history behind measuring crania and attempting to deduce intelligence on that basis.

Skull porn?

I happen to like skulls, and have been studying both evolution and human osteology since grad school (and that was a while ago). There is a lot to be learned from bones.

As for intelligence being based on cranial measurements--that was discredited long ago, 100+ years.

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Herto skulls (Homo sapiens idaltu)

Some new fossils from Herto in Ethiopia, are the oldest known modern human fossils, at 160,000 yrs. The discoverers have assigned them to a new subspecies, Homo sapiens idaltu, and say that they are anatomically and chronologically intermediate between older archaic humans and more recent fully modern humans. Their age and anatomy is cited as strong evidence for the emergence of modern humans from Africa, and against the multiregional theory which argues that modern humans evolved in many places around the world.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/herto.html

[fish hawk]

Anyone who watches the Coral Ridge Hour and knows anything about Dr. Kennedy, knows that this article is plain old trash mouth garbage. I for one can't stand the TV Evangelists but Kennedy is smart and right on the mark with his Christian doctrine. He is the only one I would watch.

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

Hitler was not a "Darwinist" in any sense of the word; he was a pagan creationist.

[hosepipe]

Who killed more "people"... Hitler or American Abortionists?...

My FETUS, I mean sister(now over 50), is a seventh month preemie.. Murdering babys for the life of the mother happens sometimes, but 99% of the time its merely for convience.. i.e. murder aforethought.. 1st degree murder..

My sister was a baby at seven months and for several months before that..

[Wallace T.]

If America becomes a theocracy, it will be at the hands of leftists who will use the courts and manipulation of public opinion to impose rule by bureaucrats and judges, the priestly class of the psuedo-religion of secular humanism and the ideology of socialism. Americans have little to fear from the minuscule Christian Reconstruction movement, which is unpopular with most evangelicals, even most conservative Calvinists. The few recalcitrant white supremacists are no more a threat to this country than the local chess club. The far greater threat is from liberals and RINOs who would destroy the conservative Christian churches, the traditional family, private associations, local governments, and the free market economy for the sake of liberating mankind from what they consider superstition and white male hegemony.

[VadeRetro]

Nice to know you're still here, given that this article contradicts a growing enthusiasm on FR for ludicrously pig-ignorant Luddite propaganda. (Thanks a lot to Ann Coulter for stoking the fires of idiocy with her latest book.)

[r9etb]

Blaming the theory evolution for what Hitler did is like pushing your grandmother down the stairs and blaming the theory of gravitation. Just doesn't make any sense. Scientific observations don't validate anyone's bad behavior.

Just to play devil's advocate here: on what basis would you say that something like a Nazi eugenics program is "bad behavior?" It's a serious question.

It's not the job of science to provide a moral basis, only to discover and interpret data.

I can see your point, and it's perfectly valid as long as one does not contemplate the application of what science tells us. Once one reaches the point of application, however, the moral implications of the science come to the fore: one must confront the difference between "can" and "should."

For example: if we look at what the theory of evolution tells us about how the world really works, one can make an excellent case for a morality in which "the good" is defined in terms of being able to ensure the passing on of one's genes (or "good" genes of some description) by whatever means possible.

We probably strongly agree that putting into practice such a morality would be profoundly wrong -- but given that the natural world really does seem to work that way, it's not empirically obvious that such acts constitute "bad behavior." Our outrage at the idea might plausibly be interpreted as an evolved trait which causes us to work harder to pass on our own genes.....

That Social Darwinism might be "bad behavior" is a judgement you've applied after the fact, based on something apparently in contradiction to what the science seems to tell us. On what basis would you make such a moral claim?

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

I for one can't stand the TV Evangelists but Kennedy is smart and right on the mark with his Christian doctrine.

And his expertise in Christian doctrine makes him an expert on the theory of evolution and on modern European history because __________________.

(Fill in the blank.)

[r9etb]

eugenics is not apart of TOE

A rather Freudian typo .... ;-)

In fact, eugenics is an application of TOE, and is therefore really not "apart" of it.

[fish hawk]

Dr. Kennedy has PhD and I only went to High School but even I am smart enough to know that evolution is a farce. You don't need to be an "expert" to know truth, just have common sense.

[E Rocc]

Certainly a little bit more "elegant" of a reply than the normal Flying Spaghetti Monster response. Though it makes the same point: our government is expected to be neutral regarding matters of conscience and belief. And yes, this also requires that agnosticism and atheism be treated just like any other religious belief: receiving neither preferential treatment nor special burden.

My personal view is that if God had meant for us to figure out for ourselves how the world works, he would have given us brains.

-Eric

[Senator Bedfellow]

In fact, eugenics is an application of TOE, and is therefore really not "apart" of it.

I guess if I hit you in the head with a shovel, that would be an "application" of F = m*a.

Do you suppose the jury will go for it when I tell them it's all Newton's fault?

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

Dr. Kennedy has PhD and I only went to High School but even I am smart enough to know that evolution is a farce.

On what grounds do you say that evolution is a farce?

[Dimensio]

Lies are lies, and they have real world consequences, whether they are propagated by Charles Darwin or Martin Luther.

What lies did Charles Darwin propigate?

[Dimensio]

From what (little) I know about Hitler, anyway, he got his racial theories from people that were contemporaries of, or even slightly before, Darwin. H.S. Chamberlain and the Frenchman Gobineau, for two examples. He took their theories of the superiority of the Aryan and the inferiority of the Semite and added the violent German nationalism he felt as an Austrian youth, then mixed it all together while he was a bum in Vienna before World War I.

When did Darwin claim that "Aryans" were superior to "Semites"?