Posted on 08/27/2006 6:41:55 AM PDT by mcg2000
awww geez ... please ZOT. My error and misspelling in the search block!
http://today.reuters.co.uk/tv/videoStory.aspx?isSummitStory=false&storyId=eb16e63077404ca28ffbcacecb56291d0ef0f9b0&WTmodLoc=NewsArt-R4-WatchVideos-2
Here's the video ...
Looks like the Muslins haven't changed in 1400 years. They forcibly converted the Christian Middle East and North Africa between 700 and 1200 AD, and if not for the Crusades and the armies of Europe would have done the same to Europe.
This is the goal of the Muslim enemy. Too bad we've forgotten all this since the West drove them back from the gates of Vienna in 1683. We'd better start reading our history books and learning from the past. And, we'd also better revise the revisionist history about the Crusades. Lefties and secularists decry the Crusades. But, we will all soon realize that it saved the West and Christianity, and was, indeed noble and right.
Gimme a break! This is self preservation on their part.They decided that making such a claim would increase their chances of survival.I think this would have been a reasonable assumption on their part.
Are you saying its somehow immoral to mouth whatever words someone wants while holding a gun to your head in order to gain release, knowing that few if anyone will believe them and they can be recounted when free?
Although they may have bought themselves some time, they now are in the position of being tagged as apostates if they renounce their "conversions." That will make them targets for murder throughout the Muslim world, not just in the eyes of the most extreme.
Wow, that entire video is rubbish. Nothing but propaganda!
"Are you saying its somehow immoral to mouth whatever words someone wants while holding a gun to your head in order to gain release, knowing that few if anyone will believe them and they can be recounted when free?"
In this case it's different. It's not like he's a Pepsi fan who agreed to a Coke preference at gunpoint. If he was a Christian to start with, converting to Islam means that he renounces God -- he said as much in the video.
I agree that this poor slob probably just wanted to be released by these throat-cutters, but you have to be careful what you wish for.
Nonsense. Anyone who believes that crap is the most extreme.
I would have converted to a Buddist if it would have saved my life (But all the time I would be praying for the Lord's forgiveness under my breath).
No reasonable person having the most vague understanding of the circumstances could watch that video and believe that he really renounced anything or said anything.
Well, you know, the pages of history are full of martyrs who refused to renounce their faith.
I don't condemn the two Fox guys for not following the lead of those ancient saints (I doubt I would have had the intestinal fortitude to follow the lead of the martyrs), but let's face it, if you TRULY believe, the martyrs set the standard, and eveything short of that is human weakness.
Anyone?
Had they held out for some reason, their deaths (if at all) would have been private and their refusal would have never come out. This is something they must handle within themselves.
Jill Carroll, young, naive, loved the Middle East, loved Middle Eastern people, kidnapped by Islamofascist/Iraqi terrorists and then released, gave an interview the other day. She works for The Christian Science Monitor, who said she'd been reassigned...she's working in the US, at least for now. She said her kidnapping had been a set-up, that she hadn't been treated well and was very scared the entire time. It seemed as if she'd been brought face to face with reality...Islamic terrorists are not nice people...and she's still in shock.
Sorry Carrie_Okie, if the Koran says it's OK for muslims to lie to infidels when it's to their advantage, I'd say it works both ways.
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