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Rudy Still Looking Good, a Year Later
Townhall.com ^ | August 25, 2006 | Lorie Byrd

Posted on 08/25/2006 9:23:43 AM PDT by veronica

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To: Theo

Rudy is, however, a fiscal conservative. Consider:

* Giuliani cut taxes in NYC by 22 percent, or $8 billion.
* Rudy's economy produced over 400,000 jobs, the strongest 7-year gain on record.
* Rudy turned a $2.3 billion deficit into a surplus.
* Giuliani reduced the size of government by cutting the city payroll by 19 percent (when was the last time a president of either party actually sent lazy civil servants packing?).
* Rudy slowed the growth of government to below the rate of inflation.
* Rudy did all of this while maintaining services that benefit most people, like law enforcement and education.

Rudy did for NYC what the Republicans should be doing at the federal level: cutting unnecessary parts of government, making the state work more efficiently, enhancing necessary public services, and doing it all while keeping taxes low and the budget balanced. This puts Rudy to the right of our last three presidents on fiscal matters. Fiscal conservatives have a candidate in Rudy.

http://poliprogs.blogspot.com/2006/06/rudy-fiscal-conservative.html


121 posted on 08/25/2006 4:10:30 PM PDT by sono (One Party is interested in confronting this threat - the other only in confronting Bush - Mark Steyn)
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To: sono
Well, I have to say to those commenters, with all due respect, get over yourselves. If today's events have taught us anything - and I think most of us already knew it - we are, alas, only at the beginning of the Global War Against Islamofascism. More than ever we need a wartime leader capable of uniting as much of the country behind him as possible. For whatever his pluses and minuses, Bush has been weak in that regard. Giuliani seems to have more abilities in that direction, although that is not to say it will be remotely easy for him. But as of this moment, there is no one else but Rudy with the vitae and the charisma to do it. And as we also all know, all those other issues that people clutch to their bosoms like so many sacred icons - from the economy to stem cell research - pale by comparison to the victorious resolution of this war. In fact, if we don't succeed, they are all completely and forever irrelevant.

I reject completely the moronic premise that Rudy Giuliani is the only potential Republican candidate who can continue to successfully prosecute the War on Terror. Before 9/11 and the current War on Terror, especially during the initial primary elections, would ANYONE have thought that George W. Bush could have done what he's been able to do? Not hardly. But he HAS been successful. This ridiculous stuff about Rudy being the second coming of George S. Patton is just so much bovine feces.

122 posted on 08/25/2006 4:13:55 PM PDT by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: sono
Rudy is, however, a fiscal conservative.

Right....That's why he ran on the Liberal Party ticket and was endorsed by the Liberal Party. Because he is a fiscal conservative...Right...

123 posted on 08/25/2006 4:18:20 PM PDT by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: Spiff

Despite the labels, Rudy resurrected NYC's fiscal morass, inherited from the woefully inept David Dinkins. It is because of Rudy Giuliani that Business returned to Manhattan - Disney and Virgin to name two. Labels notwithstanding, Rudy's Administration was fiscally responsible and NYC prospered because of it.


124 posted on 08/25/2006 4:23:52 PM PDT by sono (One Party is interested in confronting this threat - the other only in confronting Bush - Mark Steyn)
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To: Spiff

We cannot implement the war against Islamic Fascism if Wes Clark is at the Department of Defense, Ambassador Holbrooke is at State, John Edwards is Attorney General -- you get the idea.

Giuliani has been behind Bush 100% and will appoint people who support the Bush Doctrine.

No victory, no spoils = we get stuck with garbage like Janet Reno again. America loses.


125 posted on 08/25/2006 4:29:26 PM PDT by JHBowden (Speaking truth to moonbat.)
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To: sono
According to an article in The Nation from 2002:

It's now apparent that Giuliani purchased the city's good times partially with borrowed money and left his successor, Mike Bloomberg, holding a bag of debt. New York City went from a $3 billion budget surplus in 1998 to a $4.5 billion deficit after Giuliani left office. This mismanagement of prosperity is a big part of his legacy. Giuliani left the city's finances in a mess...

It lists a few things Giuliani did that weren't even near being fiscally conservative:

I like this tidbit from the article:

During the 1960s Giuliani was a self-described "Robert Kennedy Democrat." He identified with RFK as a liberal Catholic prosecutor. He volunteered for RKF's 1968 presidential campaign while he was a student at NYU Law School. Giuliani also voted for George McGovern in 1972. During the liberal 1960s, he was a liberal.

But in 1975 Giuliani switched his party registration from Democrat to Independent when he got a job in Gerald Ford's Justice Department, according to his mentor Harold "Ace" Tyler.

He's a liberal. He's not even in the same building as conservative. He's only a Republican because...and this comes from his own mother, Helen Giuliani:

"He only became a Republican after he began to get all these jobs from them. He's definitely not a conservative Republican. He thinks he is, but he isn't. He still feels very sorry for the poor."

So, go find a Republican candidate who isn't a RINO and throw your support behind him. Rudy is a liberal and he deserves what he's going to get here from me and from others who wish to promote conservatism and fight liberalism.

126 posted on 08/25/2006 4:34:03 PM PDT by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: Spiff
reject completely the moronic premise that Rudy Giuliani is the only potential Republican candidate who can continue to successfully prosecute the War on Terror. Before 9/11 and the current War on Terror,



I think Newt, Pence or McCaine could do good jobs on the WOT and other issues I care about. They also have have histories of leadership.

However Pence prolly won't run.

I doubt Newt's electable and I like Rudy more then McCain..After those guys the list sorta just ends.

Much to the dismay of many posters there is no Ronald Reagan riding in to make everyone happy.
127 posted on 08/25/2006 4:36:50 PM PDT by Blackirish (I'm George Allen and I apologize.)
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To: Spiff
Why are you quoting Marxist periodicals to make your case?

Hm?
128 posted on 08/25/2006 4:37:06 PM PDT by JHBowden (Speaking truth to moonbat.)
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To: JHBowden
We cannot implement the war against Islamic Fascism if Wes Clark is at the Department of Defense, Ambassador Holbrooke is at State, John Edwards is Attorney General -- you get the idea.

So, support and elect a real Republican. The election is over two years out and Rudy is definitely not the only Republican candidate out there by a long shot.

Giuliani has been behind Bush 100% and will appoint people who support the Bush Doctrine.

What? You're claiming to be a psychic?! So, Rudy has a demonstrably liberal mindset but somehow he's going to ignore all of that and appoint good, conservative justices to the Supreme Court?! How stupid do you think conservatives are to believe that horse crap?

No victory, no spoils = we get stuck with garbage like Janet Reno again. America loses.

Again, and this may be a news flash for you, there are actually other Republicans who may run for President and win.

129 posted on 08/25/2006 4:38:00 PM PDT by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: JHBowden
Why are you quoting Marxist periodicals to make your case?

Why are you defending a liberal, pro-abortion, pro-radical gay agends, pro-gun grabbing RINO on a conservative forum?

The content of the article, especially that which I quoted, is not even close to being Marxist. Stick with the material at hand. Deal with the facts stated, try to debunk them, but the facts are the facts until then.

130 posted on 08/25/2006 4:40:45 PM PDT by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: Spiff
, pro-abortion, pro-radical gay agends, pro-gun



You make my point. There is so much more going on now then just Guns ,Gays and God.

This crew by pandering to the social right
have spent money like they hate the stuff...left the borders open and are floundering overseas.
Nothing on drilling...refineries ...vouchers...tort reform...tax reform...smaller government...just flag burning...gay crap ...Internet gambling..

It's time for some old fashioned day to day conservative governance and besides McCaine or Newt the rest of them are a pack of phoney preachers in bed with K street. Thats why it's a short list. It's a short list of accomplishments in DC.
131 posted on 08/25/2006 4:52:07 PM PDT by Blackirish (I'm George Allen and I apologize.)
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To: Spiff

" Again, and this may be a news flash for you, there are actually other Republicans who may run for President and win."

And again, their names are Allen, Romney, and McCain. Gingrich, Pence, and Tancredo will get P'wned, badly.

McCain is reliable on 80% of the issues but showboats often where he disagrees with Republicans to get press. McCain polls extremely well against Democrats, including Hillary. However, McCain has Howard Dean head issues which makes his chances less than predictable.

Allen's the best out of the bunch on the issues, and has ran campaigns against tough opponents before. He's also dull, and has a tendency to do stupid things that will be exploited by a competent opponent like the Clintons.

Romney, a good fundraiser, has the looks and public speaking totally down. However, he's a conservative in a liberal state, which means he'll have to flipflop away from a few liberal positions and stay flipflopped for the national election, something that won't work if he tries to play it both ways Kerry-style.

And lastly, there's Giuliani, who's been behind the WOT 100%, has the star power from 911, and has said nothing but praise of President Bush during his term. Giuliani's problem is the same as Romney's problem, plus Giuliani's got some personal baggage. All polls show Giuliani stomping every Dem candidate, so the primary is his big challenge should he run.

These are our choices, and I understand completely what I'm getting with each, along with the odds of each candidate winning.


132 posted on 08/25/2006 4:54:11 PM PDT by JHBowden (Speaking truth to moonbat.)
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To: Blackirish
You make my point. There is so much more going on now then just Guns ,Gays and God. This crew by pandering to the social right have spent money like they hate the stuff...left the borders open and are floundering overseas. Nothing on drilling...refineries ...vouchers...tort reform...tax reform...smaller government...just flag burning...gay crap ...Internet gambling.. It's time for some old fashioned day to day conservative governance and besides McCaine or Newt the rest of them are a pack of phoney preachers in bed with K street. Thats why it's a short list. It's a short list of accomplishments in DC.

Your ignorance is only surpassed by your terrible spelling and your animosity towards the socially conservative base of the Republican Party.

133 posted on 08/25/2006 5:56:35 PM PDT by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: Spiff

Blackirish is a liberal mole...


134 posted on 08/25/2006 5:59:33 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: JHBowden
There are a lot more people out there than just the ones the liberals want us to pick...

Giuliani is a Trojan Horse and has done nothing to curtail illegal immigrants ripping off the city of New York...

But, since Giuliani is so happy to sit on his hands and let Mrs. Clinton be his senator, why the hell should any Republicans trust in that incompetence?

135 posted on 08/25/2006 6:04:35 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: veronica
As Kate O’Beirne pointed out recently, “Should Mitt Romney join a 2008 race that included John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, Newt Gingrich and George Allen, the only guy in the GOP field with only one wife would be the Mormon."

Hmmmmm. Didn't know that about George Allen but I'll tell you this: Once we get down to the nitty-gritty of choosing the '08 GOP nominee more than Rudy's marriage and adultery will come under the microscope.

I'm more concerned about his affection for so many gays, transgenders, lesbians and transvestites. He is surrounded by them on his staff and in his social life. Could he be the J. Edgar Hoover of the 21st Century? I hear that at the "appropriate time" it will be exposed that he's been known to "do drag". Can't wait for the pictures.
136 posted on 08/25/2006 6:08:47 PM PDT by no dems ("25 homicides a day committed by Illegals" Ted Poe (R-TX) Houston Hearings 8/16/06)
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To: Rennes Templar

WHY do you think that? Be specific.


137 posted on 08/25/2006 6:17:40 PM PDT by Doohickey (I am not unappeasable. YOU are just too easily appeased.)
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To: Blackirish
There is so much more going on now then just Guns ,Gays and God

What is more important than preseving our society? Give up that so a Rino can "maybe" be tough on the WOT? Get real.

138 posted on 08/25/2006 6:26:14 PM PDT by beltfed308 (Nanny Statists are Ameba's.)
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To: Spiff
You counter an argument by calling someone ignorant but lack the ability to refute the argument.
All you can do is cast aspersions and post 20 year old quotes lifted from other posters.
Your a joke.
139 posted on 08/25/2006 6:54:50 PM PDT by Blackirish (I'm George Allen and I apologize.)
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To: beltfed308
What is more important than preserving our society?


What do you mean? Are you saying that the only people qualified to preserve our society are social conservatives?
140 posted on 08/25/2006 7:09:04 PM PDT by Blackirish (I'm George Allen and I apologize.)
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