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Ray Haynes: You Can Count on Angelides for Tax Hike
Human Events ^ | Aug. 25, 2006 | CA Assemblyman Ray Haynes

Posted on 08/25/2006 12:15:55 AM PDT by FairOpinion

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That's what Angelides offers: higher taxes and socialist income redistribution, and destructon of the CA economy.
1 posted on 08/25/2006 12:15:58 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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So does Arnold and Ray Haynes refrains from mentioning Arnold hasn't cut a single government program either and is proposing massive new borrowing. Some difference! We conservatives face a choice between two big government liberals. Choose your poison!

( No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo!)

2 posted on 08/25/2006 1:13:36 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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See my post on the other thread -- same answer.

Arnold is NOT emperor to do anything he wants.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1689690/posts?page=4#4


3 posted on 08/25/2006 1:46:16 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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But he could veto bills, he could propose spending cuts and he could explain the merits of a traditional lifestyle to the voters. We thought we got reform in the past three years - instead, we're getting bipartisan liberalism.

( No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo!)

4 posted on 08/25/2006 1:50:07 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Arnold is impotent. Why do we disagree on this? Did Sumner Redstone get to you too?


5 posted on 08/25/2006 1:55:43 AM PDT by Prodn2000
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For the tenmillionth time: we have a choice between Arnold and Angelides.

Arnold has been curtailng the leftist agenda of the CA Legislature, he refused to raise taxes, vetoed some significant Legislations passed, such as drivers license for illegals, homosexual marriage bill, Arnold to the workers comp bill passed, helping CA businesses, he vetoed the burder of requiring businesses to provide health insurance for their employees, etc. Arnold vetoed some 35% of the bills passed by the Legislature.

Angelides is on record that he can hardly wait to sign the bills Arnold vetoed.

So while you keep railing against Arnold, do you really want Angelides to rubberstamp all the leftist Dem Legislature's bills and totally destroy CA?


6 posted on 08/25/2006 2:00:36 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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Arnold vetoes some 35% of the bills passed by the CA Legislature.


7 posted on 08/25/2006 2:01:31 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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Wow!! 35%!!! Our President must veto that much from the Congress.


8 posted on 08/25/2006 2:06:36 AM PDT by Prodn2000
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It's funny, I think Arnold is way to liberal, but, when you consider the alternative....So, yes, I will vote for him.

As a side note, I'm planning on voting for McClintock for Liet. Gov. Hopefully, he'll win.



9 posted on 08/25/2006 2:08:22 AM PDT by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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Arnold ran for Governor the first time because of the tremendous chance for victory. California has seen a worsening of the ability to do business in the state.

So he did not accomplish his first term goals... You want to grant another Hollywood elite another chance??
10 posted on 08/25/2006 2:09:36 AM PDT by Prodn2000
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New laws suffocate California

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1686976/posts


Ronald Reagan, Jerry Brown and George Deukmejian added roughly 1,500 new laws yearly; Pete Wilson and Gray Davis about 1,000 annually.

Scary.

But in 2004, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger made news. He vetoed 311 bills. His vetoes caused legislators momentary pause. They sent him “only” 961 laws in 2005. Arnold let 729 become law — a “record low” in our times.


11 posted on 08/25/2006 2:10:21 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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And do you want leftist socialist Angelides to become goveror?

You are berating Arnold, because he couldn't reverse all the damage done to the state in the several years prior him becoming governor, in a couple of years -- when he is also opposed by the Dem Legislature at every step.

What do you think will happen to CA business climate if Angelides becomes governor?!


12 posted on 08/25/2006 2:12:23 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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729 + the 311 that he vetoed does not equal 961. Nice try, however.


13 posted on 08/25/2006 2:14:11 AM PDT by Prodn2000
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Arnold is one step from total mental retardation.


14 posted on 08/25/2006 2:14:45 AM PDT by Prodn2000
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There are two different years mentioned -- they don't specifically say how many bills they sent him in 2004, Ub I read it was around 1000 -- out of that he vetoed 301, so that's 30%.

In 2005, he signed 729 out of the 961, meaning he signed 75% and vetoed 25%.

Vetoing 25-30%, even it's not exactly 355, it's still very significant.


15 posted on 08/25/2006 2:17:58 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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Also, it is scary when someone can leap far enough to the center during a special recall election, that he can garner the support of the conservative movement when his is an outright "gay marriage" liberal.


16 posted on 08/25/2006 2:18:23 AM PDT by Prodn2000
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You, on the other hand are so brilliant, that you want to have Angelides become governor.


17 posted on 08/25/2006 2:18:56 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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Maybe under George W. Bush. Under a real executive, a liberal assembly would have no chance. A 50% veto ratio would be the best outcome for the socialist California assembly.


18 posted on 08/25/2006 2:19:51 AM PDT by Prodn2000
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If you reallly think that it makes a difference, then by all means, support Arnold.


19 posted on 08/25/2006 2:20:41 AM PDT by Prodn2000
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Arnold vetoes some 35% of the bills passed by the CA Legislature.

More RINO math? Arnold has vetoed 24% to date since taking office.
IMO, it should have been 35% (plus some) given that it is a dem controlled legislature.

Davis vetoed 21% of all legislation, most coming from his own party.

20 posted on 08/25/2006 8:09:41 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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