Posted on 08/22/2006 2:04:20 PM PDT by js1138
Look it up. "Enlightenment" indeed!
> Do you believe there was a creator for the keyboard you just used?
To save time: we don;t see keyboards romping through the natural world, reproducing on their own and mutating.
Seriously, and leaving aside the "work" of smear artists like Kennedy, and other worthless, arm-waving linking of Darwin and Hitler...
Does anyone know of any substantive and systematic attempt, by any Nazi, to rationalize "Nordic Theory," Nazi antisemitism, etc, in terms of evolutionary theory? Again I'm not talking about rhetorical glosses by Nazis referring to evolution in general, and generally in ignorant or superficial ways. I mean a real attempt to justify any key element of Nazism in terms of evolutionary theory.
As I've said several times now I find it odd that something of the sort doesn't exist. But, so far as I can find to date, it doesn't appear to.
I guess I'll have to read Richard Weikart's book just to check, although the mere fact of his agreeing to be a featured expert on James Kennedy's "documentary" tends to make me think that his scholarship might have little to offer. Still I'll check, and if anyone knows themselves please post or freepmail. I've long been interested in "scientific racism" and would like to know if I'm missing something here.
Not to argue with your points which are valid but my view is I really don't care what Hitler claimed to be. He was an unrepentent mass murderer. I usually make it a practice not to attempt to play God and wonder who is saved and who is not. But in Hitler's case there is not much of a question as his behavior was so extreme. Is there any record of Hitler and his inner circle going to church? Never heard of it. He did Satan's bidding and was most certainly not one of Christ's.
Er, that's #143...
> Or maybe Hilter was trying to influence Christians.
He was trying to influence *everybody.*
> people on this thread will be claiming the Nazis never used propaganda.
Only the Creationists.
> I could say that democracy influenced Hitler too.
A great many things influenced Hitler. Things good, bad and indifferent.
> His regime didn't have much to do with God and freedom though, did it.
Sure it did. just not your conception of God. More the Theosophical Madame Blavatsky Ascended Master Victorian-era Spiritualist bullcrap notion of God, married to racism and psychosis.
> Regarding your claim that "attitudes" are the same
What claim? Specify.
Did you ever notice the number of non-Spanish names on the gravestones at the missions?
> you'll find that it (not obb) was the source of the parenthetical comments.
Yes. Didn't go to the bother of trimming them out, though I can now see that there would have been advantage in that.
It's true. No one was ever killed or murdered until Darwin proposed natural selection as the mechanism for evolution.
Personally, I blame Anaximander of Miletus. /sarcasm
Maybe put Hitler in light italics, Mr. Franks in dark italics, and yours in ARIAL BOLD or something.
Then we can readdress this business of similar attitudes.
I think Hitler himself wasn't much of a church goer, but there is at least one picture (found here) of him darkening the door...
Caption: A photograph accidentally becomes a symbol. Adolf Hitler, the supposed "heretic," leaves the Marine Church in Wilhelmshaven.
Did you ever notice the number of non-Spanish names on the gravestones at the missions?
I have been through all the literature; hanta is not mentioned.
The Indian graves are unmarked; at many California missions thousands of individuals are frequently buried in a small area.
The details on Indian deaths come from the mission records, no gravestones.
You are grasping at straws. The "enlightenment" brought to California by the Spanish missionaries and soldiers doomed 90% of the people in the mission areas.
It is, in fact, a blood libel so I thought you'd like to 'splain it ~ is it yours, some other writers, or was Hitler writing about himself in a rather farlooking manner?
What was Darwin's opinion of Jews?
You might try this site: http://taylorandfrancis.metapress.com/(cmmjepbkkeo5o3n1wg3ewu45)/app/home/contribution.asp?referrer=parent&backto=issue,6,10;journal,13,24;linkingpublicationresults,1:104736,1 to see if you can get some up to date information.
“You see, it’s been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn’t we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?” -- Hitler quoted by Albert Speer. Inside the Third Reich. 1970 p.96
I didn't have the slightest problem sorting it out.
orionbb had a sentence at the top of his post. Then he gave the link he was quoting from, then he pasted the material. Within the pasted material the Hitler quotes were clearly delineated (with quote marks -- imagine that! and footnote numbers) and the webpage author's comments placed in parentheses outside the quote marks.
Then orionbb used the HR tag to draw a line at the end of the pasted material before his own concluding remarks.
If you did have any trouble working it out you only needed to click the link and go the source.
BTW, orion, it was the third quote (foot note 4) and the parenthetical comment following that muawiyah was commenting on in his reply.
>>>However the comment about your exorbitant, haughty (and generally inaccurate) expertise in others... Not just a dig. Not terribly perspicuous either though. Apologies to all for commenting the obvious.<<<
That is somewhat clever. Keep working on your technique and one day you may be able to fool many people.
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