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Lawmaker helped brother's lobby clients (Chris Cannon)
Associated Press ^ | August 17, 2006 | Ted Bridis

Posted on 08/22/2006 7:16:36 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

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To: traditional1

Just make all interaction with representatives completely transparent....just like the SEC does with coroporate boards.......


21 posted on 08/22/2006 5:59:25 PM PDT by mo
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To: MineralMan
I have no idea what you are talking about.

Simcox is being viciously attacked by the DC open borders lobby and their willing toadies. They're setting up a standard that they don't adhere to themselves. Their hypocrisy is breathtaking.

In any case, Cannon has been slimy from the very beginning of his career. Everyone I've ever known who had any kind of contact with him says that with Chris there is ALWAYS a quid pro quo.

22 posted on 08/22/2006 6:14:58 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

"Simcox is being viciously attacked by the DC open borders lobby and their willing toadies. "




You know, whatever I know about Simcox and his organization comes from threads right here on Free Republic. From those threads, it's clear that the concerns come from people who were part of that organization, so what you say simply does not track.

As for standards, I have one, single, simple standard for organizations that want my money. I insist that they use the bulk of the donated money to do what they say they will do.

I have donated to many non-profits. Some, I have found, distribute the donations according to their stated intentions. I donate again to such organizations.

Others, however, I find, never seem to fund what they say they will fund. I make a practice of using slightly different names and addresses for every donation I make. Many times, I find that the greatest work of an organization is to sell my name again and again. I can tell when that happens, because I can track the various forms of my address.

I made the serious mistake of donating to an organization connected with Alan Keyes. It was his Declaration Foundation, which I understand from Free Republic threads is associated with Simcox.

From that single donation, I have received over 20 requests for additional donations from organizations I have never heard of before. Apparently, the Declaration Foundation has as its principal goal selling my name and address to as many other organizations as possible.

That is fraud, pure and simple. Then, when I started checking on the organization to which I donated, I discovered that it could not account for how its funds had been dispersed. Its required filings were not made on time.

You appear, on Free Republic, to defend Alan Keyes and his various organizations. I am quite sorry, but I must take exception with that.

I have since found other conservative organizations for my donations. They're not large donations, since I am not a rich man. But each of them has disclosed its finances on time and fully.

I will never again donate to any organization which has not made its filings on time. Never.

You ask about Democratic organizations, and I cannot tell you a thing about them. I do not donate to them. I do not follow them. I do know about some conservative organizations. Some are honest, reliable, and faithful to their goals. Others, I am sorry to say, are nothing but money-making schemes for their founders and executives. They will not recieve further donations from me, and I will advise others not to donate to them as well

I have no idea who you are. I do not know any of your associations. You are another name on Free Republic, anonymous and unknown. If you're supporting organizations that do not live up to their promises, then I will assume that you are merely a dupe. You might want to look more closely at those organizations.


23 posted on 08/22/2006 6:45:14 PM PDT by MineralMan (Non-evangelical Atheist)
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To: Registered

ROFLMAO!


24 posted on 08/22/2006 7:12:40 PM PDT by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: MineralMan

Personally, I only give of my money, time, or energy to specific candidates or specific projects I believe in.

As I have stated here more than once, I don't think the resources of the conservative movement are used wisely, overall. IMO, money given to most organizations or to the RNC is largely wasted, if your goal is to defeat the Left and to advance conservative ideals.

The top-down mentality of the DC-based hacks leads to a situation where the needed resources for battling the Left rarely get to where those resources are needed most, down in the trenches. Many of these people pay lip-service to "the grassroots", but they don't really believe in grassroots politics, aka "self-government". In fact, they sneer at it.

Having said that, I think that both Keyes and the Minutemen have done quite a lot for the movement, and for grassroots conservatism.

Sorry you've had a bad experience with fungible mailing lists. I hate that myself. But, you are going too far when you call the sale of mailing lists "fraudulent". It's standard practice...the same people who you are pointing a finger at vis a vis Keyes also work for the RNC, the NRA, NRTL, Heritage, etc., etc., etc. If it was fraud, they'd have all gone to jail decades ago. You might not like that fact. I may not like that fact. But it remains a fact.


25 posted on 08/22/2006 7:55:00 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Having said that, I think that both Keyes and the Minutemen have done quite a lot for the movement, and for grassroots conservatism.

Just stop. They are now exposed, and so are you.

How dare you call anyone a RINO, you phoney.

26 posted on 08/22/2006 8:07:48 PM PDT by Rex Anderson
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To: EternalVigilance; All

Oh man, you are splitting the sides over here.

Yeh, EV doesn't think resources are used wisely AND he doesn't like the fact that mailing lists of good hearted conservatives are bought and sold like trading cards...so what does he do? He creates his own little donation gathering and list building entitities! Why, here's just a couple of examples of EV working against the tide of scamming conservative organizations :

http://www.usbordersecurity.org/

Funny you mention "self-government" in your post above...

http://www.selfgovernment.us/
(btw, these are hosted on the same server that hosts most of Alan Keyes'organizations, does he know you had these going while working for him? Or are you in some sort of apprentice program? LOL)

Are there any other Tom? I mean, we want to make sure we know ALL the little donation gathering sites you are involved in. Help us out, because you we know you are just as upset over these little organizations are "largely wasted".

You are such a pathetic joker. You are shrinking with every post.


27 posted on 08/22/2006 8:24:21 PM PDT by Registered
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To: Registered; EternalVigilance

I have visions of EV doing all kinds of contortions under a pole as onlookers chant "How low can you go? How LOW can you go. How LOW can you GO!"


28 posted on 08/22/2006 8:28:12 PM PDT by Ms. AntiFeminazi (Keyes Akbar!)
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To: Rex Anderson

OUCH! That's tellin' him!


29 posted on 08/22/2006 8:29:32 PM PDT by PDR (Isn't it nice when corporate and political interest collide....)
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To: Registered

Your misrepresentations continue.

Lacking facts, you attack anyway.


30 posted on 08/22/2006 8:34:57 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

And you as usual, lack any substantive response. Got ya.


31 posted on 08/22/2006 8:36:25 PM PDT by Registered
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To: Rex Anderson
Just stop. They are now exposed, and so are you.

How dare you call anyone a RINO, you phoney.

"Exposed"? LOL...Get a life, RINO.

32 posted on 08/22/2006 8:36:46 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Registered

As soon as you post something substantive, I'll give you a substantive response.

You were a lot more fun when you sided with conservatives and your current cheering section hated your guts.


33 posted on 08/22/2006 8:38:50 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
As soon as you post something substantive, I'll give you a substantive response.

You haven't given a "substantive response" since March 24, 2000.

You were a lot more fun when you sided with conservatives and your current cheering section hated your guts.

You're a nasty A$$, EV. A petty little sniveling cry baby of a man pretending to "be" somebody.

34 posted on 08/22/2006 8:42:38 PM PDT by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: EternalVigilance

If you are the measure of an ideal conservative, then I will gladly accept you slams as not being like you. Being involved a myriad of organizations that use hot button issues to fleece God-fearing Americans is not a measure of conservatism.

Too bad you don't see that somewhere along the way you decided to "owe your soul to the company store"


35 posted on 08/22/2006 8:44:40 PM PDT by Registered
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To: EternalVigilance; Howlin; Rex Anderson; PDR

Name them. Who has posted here that you are calling Registered's cheering section? Which ones of those hated his guts?

And for the record, you don't have the power to re-define conservative to suit your twisted needs.


36 posted on 08/22/2006 8:46:22 PM PDT by Ms. AntiFeminazi (Keyes Akbar!)
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To: EternalVigilance

You are a piece of. Work.

I have a very ill family member, and have been out of the loop here. I'm surprised and pretty much shocked to see your cocky self here, after having your ass royally handed to you on a platter recently.

There are many unanswered questions on previous threads. Have you checked your pings?



37 posted on 08/22/2006 8:47:15 PM PDT by Rex Anderson
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To: Howlin
"You're a nasty A$$, EV. A petty little sniveling cry baby of a man pretending to "be" somebody", she snarled nastily and self-importantly.
38 posted on 08/22/2006 8:48:20 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Ms. AntiFeminazi; EternalVigilance

I'd like to see a show of hands of those here who were surprised that EV is for unlimited political donations.........LOL.


39 posted on 08/22/2006 8:49:30 PM PDT by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: Howlin

LOL, that one was just too easy. I did get a pretty good chuckle from it.


40 posted on 08/22/2006 8:50:40 PM PDT by Ms. AntiFeminazi (Keyes Akbar!)
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