Posted on 08/22/2006 7:16:36 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
There just a lot of crooks in the U.S.congress.
Any "constituent", such as MoveOn.org is not considered a "lobbyist"? The whole corrupt system of donations to candidates, including the propoganda by the MSM for Liberals, is a joke.
Eliminate ALL donations to political candidates and parties, and put Americans ALL on the same footing. Elections will become LOCAL, and representation of the little guy would result.
I know it is counter-intuitive, but you have it backwards, in fact: the way to break the lobbyist/incumbent lock on DC power is to remove all donation limits, not to further gut the First Amendment by imposing more. With full disclosure, of course, so the voters can clearly see who bought whom...
Well, we do. They're in the same category, and your 'ethical' promises are now so much b.s.
Cannon is a festering heap of parrot droppings who has made no secret of the fact he wishes to turn over the American Southwest to Mexico.
http://www.americanpatrol.com/GUESTCOLUMNS/MILLARD/CannonStiffMormons060624.html
this is one case that i hope the democrat wins.
With republicans like cannon, we don't need democrats.
Spot on. Of course, the parties will not go with this common sense approach.
Actually, while I am posting, I should complete my thought...
The organizations you support and have allied yourself with have the financial transparency of a block of cement. Not only that, but they are involved in a non-profit shell game that exists to build direct mail lists and solicit donations.
Looks to me like you're the one with the double standard.
DC is loaded with organizations/lobbyists that support those who are tearing down our Constitution and national sovereignty...for money and/or the power it garners them; and they all operate EXACTLY like the conservative organizations you've taken to criticizing of late. They all have to, they think, and their lawyers think, since legally, that's EXACTLY the way the politicians have rigged the game.
If you knew me, which you really don't, you'd know that I've always been a critic of that top-down, money-driven, way of doing politics. I think there is a much better way, morally and pragmatically.
But that doesn't mean that I'm going to attack people who are playing the game as it exists who happen to be forwarding the conservative agenda as they do it. I save my rhetorical bullets for liberals and their useful idiots.
So, to get back to the topic of the thread: Are you now a defender of Chris Cannon? Do you think its a good thing that he's carrying his lobbyist brother's water for him? What do you think of folks like Daschle and Harkin, et al, whose spouses have made tens of millions peddling their husband's influence?
"the way to break the lobbyist/incumbent lock on DC power is to remove all donation limits, not to further gut the First Amendment by imposing more. With full disclosure, of course, so the voters can clearly see who bought whom...
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Full disclosure is a joke. So many 501 organizations never file, go out of business, or file after elections that there is virtually no disclosure at all.
I think that full and TIMELY disclosure should be the order of the day with regard to all lobbyists and political organizations. It's only right.
You're beginning to sound like John McCain...ie "all money is dirty if it hasn't been given to me". Or just a leftist in general...ie "all money, all profit, is dirty".
Do you make any distinctions between the campaign organizations of those who are running for public office and private for-profit and nonprofit organizations? (They say that one definition of insanity is the inability to make distinctions.)
Are you hot on the trail of Grover Norquist? Ed Gillespie? Any of the thousands of other DC-based organizations run by lobbyists and influence peddlers?
No?
Too bad. The connections you'll find there make Chris Simcox's little grassroots startup look like an ant standing next to an elephant.
I agree.
But those who want conservatives to unilaterally disarm are nuts.
Folks have to play the game by the rules as they exist, not by the rules as partisan critics might want them to be.
Oh, you're kill'n me. Calling me a lefty, lol.
People reading your posts are well aware of how shady and disengenous you are. From your own little fundraising websites to the job you do here in the forums for those that pay you. You have lost all objectivity. We ALL know who and what you are. It's too bad honest conservatives have to put up with those that use the ideology to line their pockets at the expense of actually changing things for the better. That's right Tom, you and the likes of you cost us more than you realize. Sure, the money and donations flowing into your wallets is one thing, but the way you taint the rest of us should make us all want to vomit you out.
I haven't called you any names, however if I were to choose words to describe you it would be "mini-shyster-wannabe".
"I agree.
But those who want conservatives to unilaterally disarm are nuts. "
Your inventive imagination is impressive.
Your entire post bears no resemblence to reality.
When y'all set out to expose the corrupt way influence in DC is bought and sold daily by those who are profiting from the destruction of our republic, I might start to believe a little bit in the sincerity of some of those who are attacking Simcox/Keyes et al.
Until then, the whole thing looks to me like a hypocritical witchhunt by those with personal problems, old axes to grind, or RINO political agendas.
"I might start to believe a little bit in the sincerity of some of those who are attacking Simcox/Keyes et al.
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I have no idea what you are talking about. I see stories about all sorts of non-profit PACs and other organizations on both sides of the political equation. It seems like an awful lot of them are less than honest.
The Simcox thing is a good example. From the news stories I've read, a lot of people, including those involved in the organization are questioning the collection and distribution of donations to his organization. I have no way to check on this, so I have to rely on people who are involved.
There have been several stories posted here about Simcox and his Minuteman organization. They do not seem to be written by leftists, so I assume they have some validity.
The stories about corruption on the Democrat side are legion.
Surely, the GOP side of the coin can eliminate corruption in its non-profits and take the high road on this issue. If they do not, then contributors and voters, alike, will be justified in questioning where their money is going.
I'm a Republican, not a Democrat. I leave the Democrats to deal with their own problems.
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