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‘Spot’ teams to spy on passengers [Sanity alert]
The Times (UK) ^ | August 20, 2006 | Unsigned

Posted on 08/20/2006 8:30:43 AM PDT by aculeus

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To: aculeus
Not even random. Do like stewardess's . I'm not saying they aren't conscientious but when you are going too , I think it would make a difference.
21 posted on 08/20/2006 9:31:32 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: aculeus
Good to know this is happening.

I'd like to know where to sign up for the program. I'm looking for a part time gig to help with the war effort.

22 posted on 08/20/2006 9:39:43 AM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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If random screeners wouldn't know if today is the day they get on a plane. Why tip them off about the fact they won't go on any plane they've not been assigned to?


23 posted on 08/20/2006 9:41:16 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus

That's a good point. I was thinking though that if you knew , you were riding with the passengers you were screening you would be extra cautious, knowing that if anything gets by, it could kill you. They could also help staff on the plane and monitor during flight time .


24 posted on 08/20/2006 9:47:10 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: aculeus
My dog, Spot!


25 posted on 08/20/2006 9:50:50 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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Awwww:') I used to have a spot dog too. Mine had white spots though. Someone stole Charlie. I didn't even report it .
26 posted on 08/20/2006 10:14:01 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: aculeus

Yeah, it's good to know--but now the ACLU knows and that means a civil rights lawsuit that will try to end the program.

Anyone out there disagree with that?


27 posted on 08/20/2006 10:53:03 AM PDT by wildbill
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ACLU really has no case and probably won't make a fuss. There's no expectation of privacy while in a public place. Police take pictures of demonstrators all the time. Surveillance cameras capture images of people walking along the street all the time. Really there's no invasion of privacy.


28 posted on 08/20/2006 10:58:19 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: durasell

Long ago I saw an El Al spokesman say that they look for terrorits, not just weapons. On a flight from Buffalo I was randomly slected to have my suitcase rummaged. It was just me and youngsters coming home from Pope's Youth event. No likely terrorists, at all.


29 posted on 08/20/2006 11:24:56 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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I've been randomly selected and the folks that I dealt with were very professional. Not a big deal in my opinion.


30 posted on 08/20/2006 11:27:43 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

If your that uptight about it maybe you shouldn't fly?


31 posted on 08/20/2006 11:39:17 AM PDT by Thombo2
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To: durasell

The only way in which it is a big deal is that it is a stupid system. It is inefficient and ineffective, and that's a big deal.


32 posted on 08/20/2006 12:07:06 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: ClaireSolt

We haven't been doing it for very long. I fly frequently and have seen it get more efficient at most airports.


33 posted on 08/20/2006 12:14:29 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: durasell

Random cannot by definition be as efficient or effective as targeted.


34 posted on 08/20/2006 2:20:04 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: aculeus
One of their aims will be to spot those who may be concealing fear or anxiety.

"I've been nervous before."

35 posted on 08/20/2006 2:21:50 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: ClaireSolt

I'd do both. Cover all the bases.


36 posted on 08/20/2006 2:32:12 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: wildbill
Anyone out there disagree with that?

My two-point explantion of why no lawyers ever objected to preflight baggage inspection:

1. Lawyers fly.

2. Lawyers' mothers fly.

37 posted on 08/20/2006 3:18:36 PM PDT by aculeus
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It's not an invasion of privacy--but if the screeners detect nervousness in all, or mostly all, young Muslim males and then search them, the ACLU could go into search and seizure law which is another cup of tea, saying they are de facto profiling according to ethnicity.

I'm not a ACLU lawyer and I came up with that in a couple of seconds after I read your post.


38 posted on 08/20/2006 4:39:58 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: wildbill

Why would they detect nervousness in all or most Muslim males? Are they an unusually nervous bunch?


39 posted on 08/20/2006 4:43:01 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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Are they an unusually nervous bunch?

Just the terrorists or the ones carrying explosives...

40 posted on 08/20/2006 5:00:40 PM PDT by phantomworker ("Don't accuse me of your imagination.")
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