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CA: What do emission caps mean for California?
AP on Bakersfield Californian ^
| 8/19/06
| Samantha Young - ap
Posted on 08/19/2006 11:58:30 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Climate change is definitely needed in Sacramento but not with respect to greenhouse gases.
It is most needed in the attitudes and tendencies of state leaders across the board to seek to be at the vanguard of who can outGReen who.. and either unwittingly or knowingly denying the long-term ramifications to the state as a whole, both economically and politically.
To: NormsRevenge
What does it mean? It means that we'll have a bustling economy to rival Mauritania's.
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posted on
08/19/2006 12:00:14 PM PDT
by
Redcloak
(Speak softly and wear a loud shirt.)
To: NormsRevenge
California Portland Cement Co. had planned to build more plants this year but put its expansion on hold as it awaits a decision by state lawmakers that the company says could force it to cut production. This is what is known in the Schwarzenegger administration as being "pro-business."
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posted on
08/19/2006 12:01:21 PM PDT
by
ElkGroveDan
(California bashers will be called out)
To: Redcloak
Yep.
Push companies too hard, and they will move out faster than they are now.
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posted on
08/19/2006 12:03:06 PM PDT
by
Bigh4u2
(Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
To: NormsRevenge
A gradual shutdown of California's economy. Voters may like the appeal of dealing with "global warming" in the abstract but they'll lose interest if it begins threatening their jobs.
(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo!)
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posted on
08/19/2006 12:12:41 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: NormsRevenge
It means you got scammed by the euro elites who bought up all the carbon futures last year.
www.pointcarbon.com
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posted on
08/19/2006 12:13:48 PM PDT
by
kinoxi
To: NormsRevenge
Unintended consequences: by concentrating on the silly bogeyman "evil carbon dioxide", California will be forced to produce less and import more. Import, as in TRUCK IN, as in MORE DIESEL EMISSIONS! Smucks.
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posted on
08/19/2006 12:23:40 PM PDT
by
Jeff Chandler
(Peace begins in the womb.)
To: NormsRevenge
Follow the money.
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posted on
08/19/2006 12:42:57 PM PDT
by
kinoxi
To: NormsRevenge
"Greenhouse gasses"come from greenhouse as*es!
To: NormsRevenge
For the nation's most populous state, the stakes are high. Scientists warn that warmer weather could bring more flooding, lead to water shortages because of a smaller and faster-melting snowpack in the Sierra Nevada, promote coastal erosion from rising sea levels, and cause extreme heat waves, more intense wildfires and worse air quality. Where's the reporter's balance and skepticism? A warmer climate could also result in more fresh water, a cleaner atmosphere from more rain, less deaths from cold weather which are more common than from hot weather, a longer growing season, faster growing plants, more recreational opportunities, on and on. You know you are reading propaganda when it's written as all bad, bad, bad.
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posted on
08/19/2006 12:59:33 PM PDT
by
Reeses
To: NormsRevenge
Does anyone know of publically traded companies that make scrubbers?
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posted on
08/19/2006 1:03:39 PM PDT
by
Lx
(Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
To: NormsRevenge
Why can't they just pump the carbon dioxide into Michael Moore and Ted Kennedy? The two of them have unlimited capacity to absorb the CO2 into their fat cells for the next 100 years.
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posted on
08/19/2006 1:09:53 PM PDT
by
philetus
(Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
To: philetus
Emissions caps? I don't usually wear a cap. (But can I buy a t-shirt?)
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posted on
08/19/2006 1:56:26 PM PDT
by
NaughtiusMaximus
(WARNING: Alcohol may cause you to think you are whispering when you are definitely not.)
To: NormsRevenge
"I don't see this as much as a responsibility as an obligation to do something and take leadership in making sure that we protect our planet," Don't these flippin' idiots know ANYTHING about economics and a supply chain?
One of Mexico's largest exports is cement. So... don't produce it in CA. just buy it from Mexico. Let their production process create CO2.

Politicians are dumber than dirt.
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posted on
08/19/2006 2:05:13 PM PDT
by
Cobra64
(All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
To: NormsRevenge
What do emission caps mean for California? That Boxer, Pelosi, and DiFi have to STFU from now on?
Naaww. No such luck.
L
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posted on
08/19/2006 2:47:14 PM PDT
by
Lurker
(I support Israel without reservation. Hizbollah must be destroyed to the last man.)
To: Reeses
Where's the reporter's balance and skepticism? Balance and skepticism? From a reporter?
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posted on
08/19/2006 3:24:45 PM PDT
by
Jeff Chandler
(Peace begins in the womb.)
To: NormsRevenge
What does it mean? China will be pleased with the growth in their economy.
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posted on
08/19/2006 4:42:19 PM PDT
by
calcowgirl
("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
To: ElkGroveDan
The only "pro-business" advocates for this bill are those situated to gain from the carbon trading scheme, those that produce no tangible product in California, and those who have invested in green technology that will be forced on businesses through regulatory mandates. More business wil move to Mexico, China, etc. Why make anything in California? It's pure idiocy!
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posted on
08/19/2006 4:47:12 PM PDT
by
calcowgirl
("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
To: calcowgirl
More business wil move to Mexico, China, etc. resulting in a net increase in CO2 emissions as the products are shipped back in, the total opposite of intentions.
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posted on
08/19/2006 5:11:07 PM PDT
by
Reeses
To: Reeses
resulting in a net increase in CO2 emissions as the products are shipped back in, the total opposite of intentions. And what will we do to accommodate all those new imports? Borrow, of course! Buried in Proposition 1B, the Transportation Bond, are megabucks to upgrade all the ports. In addition to the $15 billion below, they will borrow even more to modify highways for "goods movement."
Because shipping by truck contributes greatly to traffic, the state plans to spend $15 billion on improving access to California's ports, including the Port of Hueneme. (source)
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posted on
08/19/2006 5:41:15 PM PDT
by
calcowgirl
("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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