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Bush defends surveillance program
AP on Yahoo ^ | 8/18/06 | Deb Reichman - ap

Posted on 08/18/2006 1:48:59 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: GingisK
Must have been five or six someplace.

Every single time a Muslim speaks out against Islamism and Islamist Terrorism, the FR chorus chants the same mantra: "one down one billion more to go".

Moderate and liberal Muslims worldwide see the spread of Islamism as a dangerous cult of ignorant savages.

But that doesn't sell papers---because that isn't what WE want to hear.

141 posted on 08/18/2006 5:34:46 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: NormsRevenge

I am looking for a book. Anyone read "Modern Day French War Heroes?" Must be in big demand.


142 posted on 08/18/2006 5:36:29 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: Wormwood
Moderate and liberal Muslims worldwide see the spread of Islamism as a dangerous cult of ignorant savages.

I want this to be true. Please "ding me" whenever you encounter articles that support this. If this Islamic mayhem can't be checked sooner than later, this world is going to be a very unpleasant place to live, indeed.

I'll read what you post and what you ping me for. I want to believe. I just haven't seen any evidence that it is true.

143 posted on 08/18/2006 5:39:32 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK
I'm just well read. I can also compare the differences in life in the US a few decades ago to what it is now.

Yes. Life is much better now. MUCH better!

You must be one of those who think the Ozzie and Harriet days of the 50s and 60s were idyllic.

144 posted on 08/18/2006 5:39:58 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: Paperdoll
Mexicans aren't our problem. It's the Islamists. Don't get suckered in on the old switcheroo by the opposition.

Being next to Mexico is a blessing. A lot better than having Iran as a neighbor.

145 posted on 08/18/2006 5:40:39 PM PDT by duckln (Gang of SEVEN, Pres McCain,VP Graham, and 5 RINOS high-jacked our constitution)
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To: GingisK
It's a deal!

And thanks for the polite reply.

146 posted on 08/18/2006 5:40:54 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: Doe Eyes
I thought we were talking about people living in the United States.

The TSP Act only comes into play when a foreign terrorist is talking to a contact here in the States.

IOW, two terrorists talking to each other. That one happens to be domestic is beside the point.

147 posted on 08/18/2006 5:41:31 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: GingisK
Ever see any of them protest terroist acts?

I never saw any American Catholics protest IRA terrorist acts, either.

There are no innocent Muslims. They all rejoiced on 911.

You qualify for the Dumbest Post of the Day.

Besides being incorrect, it is bigoted.

148 posted on 08/18/2006 5:45:58 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: sinkspur
The TSP Act only comes into play when a foreign terrorist is talking to a contact here in the States.

You do realize this is the first reference of the "TSP Act" in this thread.

149 posted on 08/18/2006 5:49:12 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Alwayswatching
His spirit isn't broken by any means,but he sure seemed troubled.How could he not be?

He needs to bomb the crap out of something. Say.... Iran for instance. Bust up those nuke operations on say ... August 22nd. Use a couple of MOABS on the outskirts of Terhan just for kicks. That'd make him feel better I betcha. Would me.

150 posted on 08/18/2006 5:50:36 PM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: NormsRevenge

" The mantra of the media and dems today was its 'domestic eavesdropping' "

Saturday, August 12 on CNN, Carol Linn was interviewing John Mercurio from the Hotline.
Actually, " interview " is not the correct term, the two of them acted like DNC operatives.
Linn asked Mercurio how the Democrats planned on capitalizing on the fact that " President Bush was spying on average Americans. "


151 posted on 08/18/2006 5:51:44 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Doe Eyes
The TSP Act was the subject of yesterday's ruling.

All this talk about "domestic surveillance," which is MSM-speak for "domestic-to-domestic", is not covered by the TSP.

152 posted on 08/18/2006 5:54:22 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: sinkspur
You must be one of those who think the Ozzie and Harriet days of the 50s and 60s were idyllic.

Well, those years were are great deal better than now. This is not a "think" this is an observation. Of course, those years were not "perfection". They were just better.

The crud present today is peretrated largely by a government that is stupid, over-reactionary, overbearing, distrustful of its own citizens, and working hard to curb Constitutional Rights. Political correctness and chronyism shackels those in government who are good and would do the right thing.

The restrictions on good law-abiding citizens are now remarkable. Symptoms include controls on amatuer rocketry, scientific experimentation, mere possestion of some things, and so on. Children can be arrested for taking a TOY GUN (shudder) to school. The number of things that have become felonies are mind boggling. You'd have to walk awhile in my shoes to understand the differences. The government just plain mistrusts and hates its own citizens now. Do you call all of this an improvement?

153 posted on 08/18/2006 5:54:26 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK; All

I hate to break it to you but isolationism has failed in the past (case in point in WWII), and it will always fail...


154 posted on 08/18/2006 5:54:47 PM PDT by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: sinkspur
...it is bigoted...

Nah. It just observation. Political correctness aside.

155 posted on 08/18/2006 5:55:57 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: KevinDavis
...isolationism has failed in the past...

Simply because the other blokes can't behave themselves without US policing the damn world.

Don't forget the "gunboat diplomacy". It worked. Its the old "walk softly and carry a big stick". That worked.

Still, if we just refuse to admit anyone into this Nation from any "hot spot" in the world, we'd be a lot better off. We'd also be a lot better off to rid ourselves of Islamics. Just say no.

156 posted on 08/18/2006 6:00:18 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: NormsRevenge
We need to send plane loads of liberals on a FREE trip, all expenses paid to IRAQ and drop them into Baghdad. Announce in advance to local kidnappers of their coming. THEN, they'll realize what we are dealing with.
157 posted on 08/18/2006 6:01:07 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: GingisK
Well, those years were are great deal better than now. This is not a "think" this is an observation. Of course, those years were not "perfection". They were just better.

I remember how good they were. Most men worked like dogs in hard, physical labor, women didn't go to college, and blacks had to drink out of separate water fountains.

The restrictions on good law-abiding citizens are now remarkable. Symptoms include controls on amatuer rocketry, scientific experimentation, mere possestion of some things, and so on.

Amateur rocketry? What a bizarre thing to be concerned about!

I'm 55, and I don't have any fewer freedoms than I had when I was 25. And I suspect you don't either. You just THINK you do.

158 posted on 08/18/2006 6:02:00 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: avacado
"A panel of former Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court judges yesterday told members of the Senate Judiciary Committee that President Bush did not act illegally when he created by executive order a wiretapping program conducted by the National Security Agency (NSA)."

Absolutely correct!

Still you won't hear anything about that in the mainstream media. They'll gloss over that like it never happened and continue to accuse him of breaking laws and invading YOUR personal privacy. We don't have the resources to do something like that nor would we with these animals on the loose.
159 posted on 08/18/2006 6:03:01 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: GingisK
A 'globalist' President would not have nixed Kyoto, the World Court, paying for international abortions, or not buckling to EU pressures, or any other pressures for five years.

And the southern border is not 'wide-open.' Disagree or not with the President's immigration policy, you completely negate any argument you may have by deliberately misstating the facts.

The President is only a 'globalist' in your imagination...........not in reality.

160 posted on 08/18/2006 6:04:20 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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