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California selects plan to protect ocean wildlife
AP on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 8/15/06 | Marcus Wohlsen - ap

Posted on 08/15/2006 10:34:08 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 08/15/2006 10:34:13 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

I hope they won't mind the million gazillion off-shore oil rigs I plan to put there when I become King. (Oil rigs are good for fishies anyway.)


2 posted on 08/15/2006 10:40:45 PM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (WARNING: Alcohol may cause you to think you are whispering when you are definitely not.)
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To: NormsRevenge
A plan proposed by fishermen themselves would have barred them from 5 percent of Central Coast waters...

Or, environmentalists masquerading as fishermen through fancy sounding non-profit organizations.

3 posted on 08/15/2006 10:43:45 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: NormsRevenge

what are legislators for anyway?


4 posted on 08/15/2006 10:50:46 PM PDT by GeronL (flogerloon.blogspot.com -------------> Rise of the Hate Party)
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To: GeronL

what are (some) legislators (good) for anyway?


chum?

whatever it takes to help the fish get fat


5 posted on 08/15/2006 10:52:57 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: calcowgirl

Bloomberg or someone just fully funded the creation of a 'gun rights' organization that will be anti-gun for them.


6 posted on 08/15/2006 10:53:25 PM PDT by GeronL (flogerloon.blogspot.com -------------> Rise of the Hate Party)
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To: GeronL
Bloomberg or someone just fully funded the creation of a 'gun rights' organization that will be anti-gun for them.

Just one? /sarcasm

The infiltration continues.

7 posted on 08/15/2006 10:56:42 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1683659/posts

there is the link


8 posted on 08/15/2006 10:57:25 PM PDT by GeronL (flogerloon.blogspot.com -------------> Rise of the Hate Party)
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To: NormsRevenge
chum? ... whatever it takes to help the fish get fat

Great job keeping that on topic! ROFLMHO!!!

9 posted on 08/15/2006 10:58:00 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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Funded solely by New York City dot-com billionaire Andrew McKelvey probably a Bloomy buddy.


10 posted on 08/15/2006 10:58:35 PM PDT by GeronL (flogerloon.blogspot.com -------------> Rise of the Hate Party)
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To: calcowgirl

the American Hunters and Shooters Association is its name. Its replacing the old Americans for Gun Safety as their front group apparently, according to that NRA release.


11 posted on 08/15/2006 10:59:52 PM PDT by GeronL (flogerloon.blogspot.com -------------> Rise of the Hate Party)
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To: calcowgirl

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1453800/posts

here is the entire press release


12 posted on 08/15/2006 11:00:38 PM PDT by GeronL (flogerloon.blogspot.com -------------> Rise of the Hate Party)
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To: GeronL

Thanks for the link.

There are a couple of anti-hunting bills working their way through the California legislature.
I'll keep an eye out for these guys campaigning.


13 posted on 08/15/2006 11:02:44 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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They might be more of a NY area thing but the NRA did send out the warning so you should.


14 posted on 08/15/2006 11:04:06 PM PDT by GeronL (flogerloon.blogspot.com -------------> Rise of the Hate Party)
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To: calcowgirl

Thanks!

On that note, I bid you G'nite.


15 posted on 08/15/2006 11:06:31 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: GeronL
You know, it's come to the point that I check the background/funding for any group that is mentioned in the news, ones that I'm not familiar with anyway.

Other than the NRA and a few others, you can't count on too many anymore.

16 posted on 08/15/2006 11:08:49 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: NormsRevenge

gnite


17 posted on 08/15/2006 11:09:38 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Any made up leftist group by 3 people can get their 'study' in the news while the media ignores real conservative think-tanks


18 posted on 08/15/2006 11:10:51 PM PDT by GeronL (flogerloon.blogspot.com -------------> Rise of the Hate Party)
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You have to admire their organization skills. I've often thought "why don't conservatives do that"? The only thing I can conclude is that conservatives just can't bring themselves to adopt the same sleazy, dishonest tactics of the leftists. That, and being too busy trying to make a living doing a real job.


19 posted on 08/15/2006 11:13:48 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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The fisherman, and their proposed alternative plan, was for real. I personally KNOW many of those (fisherman) who contributed to it. They were hoping to minimize the damages, since once the government takes something away, it NEVER gives it back! Even when it's proven wrong.

The fisherman were not phony, just outgunned by all the sky-is-falling Chicken Little's, in all their various guises, including the so-called "scientists", whom are every one of them, products of our way-far-left educational processes.

They lack much in the way of real data, concerning this area, too. One gal wanted to close the whole thing down, so they could "study" it!

I sat in on, or watched, many of the "Marine Interest Group" meetings, personally. It was painful to watch these ninnys discuss things like "where are the areas to be defined", "where will the Northerly, and Southerly borders be". After a couple of hours, a whole room full of these geniuses finally recognized that Pt. Conception, is a place where there is the biggest change of marine species. Uh, I could have told them that ---- in fact--- I did --- had already --- when the question was posed to me by a NMFS Biologist, I answered the same as they did (except that I also stated the "why" of why this is true, which they never got around to mentioning(!)) but it only took me about 15 seconds to respond...long before they ever began to discuss it.

The State is choking the live out of the fishing industry in this part of California. They are being pushed to do so by many well funded environmental groups. All they know, is they think they must "save" it, somehow. From what, I don't know any more...as it is now, we are down to about 15 percent of the commercial boat licenses, State-wide, compared to about a dozen years ago. Of those who are left, effort is way down, per boat, due to OTHER restrictions, already in place during that same time period.

Ever heard of the "Rockfish Conservation Area"? It only goes from the Mexican border to the Canadian border!!! Though the regulations have fluctuated somewhat, as far as depths in which fishing was prohibited, it's most generally from 50-150 fathoms. It's been in place for what, EIGHT years now(?), only the largest fishery closure in the history of the Nation, and now one has ever HEARD of it!!!!!!!!!!
(I don't even pay attention anymore, I'm tired out by it all, and haven't fished in a year...it could be more restrictive, now, since they always liked to fiddle with it, damn their eyes...) And this portion, in this last general area where they want to put this latest additional"new" "exclusion zone" is as healthy as any other wide area, except for those parts it is MUCH better than, in terms of health of fish populations. But they just had to pick on us, right here.

They've killed me. Oftentimes, I think of just going ahead and finishing the job, and shooting myself.

20 posted on 08/16/2006 12:38:05 AM PDT by BlueDragon
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