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Fat Factors
The Nefarious NY Times ^ | August 13, 2006 | ROBIN MARANTZ HENIG

Posted on 08/13/2006 11:49:02 AM PDT by neverdem

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To: TWohlford

This article was fascinating. It's a shame that the NYTimes doesn't make the effort to do research this thoroughly when writing political news stories.


41 posted on 08/15/2006 5:10:45 AM PDT by TaxRelief (Wal-Mart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: neverdem
They opened the catalogue of a laboratory-supply company to see which one of the 50 human adenoviruses they should order.

"I'd like to say we chose the virus out of some wisdom, out of some belief that it was similar in important ways to SMAM-1," Dhurandhar said. But really, he admitted, it was dumb luck that the adenovirus they started with, Ad-36, turned out to be so fattening.

By this time, several pathogens had already been shown to cause obesity in laboratory animals. With Ad-36, Dhurandhar and Atkinson began by squirting the virus up the nostrils of a series of lab animals -- chickens, rats, marmosets -- and in every species the infected animals got fat.

"The marmosets were most dramatic," Atkinson recalled. By seven months after infection, he said, 100 percent of them became obese. Subsequently, Atkinson's group and another in England conducted similar research using other strains of human adenovirus. The British group found that one strain, Ad-5, caused obesity in mice; the Wisconsin group found the same thing with Ad-37 and chickens. Two other strains, Ad-2 and Ad-31, failed to cause obesity.

So how do we undo this damage for obese people?
42 posted on 08/15/2006 5:18:36 AM PDT by TaxRelief (Wal-Mart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: TWohlford; SamAdams76

Although you're both coming at this from different angles, you're both dicounting the fact that the Clinton administration lowered the BMI to instantly make 30/40 million more people "obese".


43 posted on 08/15/2006 5:34:30 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: KeepUSfree
I am overweight...not obese. Always have been. I've known since I was 12 that if I ate like everyone else, I WOULD be obese.

Pretty much the same for me. I'm 6'2", 240 lbs. I recently followed the Weight Watchers points system and lost 30 lbs. What is interesting is that after I hit my goal weight and bumped up to my maintenance level of intake (1800-2000 calories), I started putting weigth back on - rapidly. What I have found over time is I can eat like a horse and stay at 240, but I have to stay below 1200 calories a day to stay even a pound below 240. My body at age 45 wants me to weigh 240 lbs.

44 posted on 08/15/2006 5:49:07 AM PDT by IamConservative (Humility is not thinking less of oneself; humility is thinking about oneself less.)
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To: IamConservative

You sound exactly like me size-wise. I'm 237....and I am going to 225 dammit!! I'd LOVE to be 210....but, I'd also like to sit backstage at the Victoria's Secret Fashion show....unfortunately, I don't think either will happen in this lifetime!!!


45 posted on 08/15/2006 6:37:53 AM PDT by KeepUSfree (WOSD = fascism pure and simple.)
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To: TaxRelief
So how do we undo this damage for obese people?

The damage is done. Eat less & exercise more.

46 posted on 08/15/2006 8:47:27 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

Potentially, this research could be beneficial for cancer patients.


47 posted on 08/15/2006 9:12:50 AM PDT by TaxRelief (Wal-Mart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: KeepUSfree
I'd LOVE to be 210....but, I'd also like to sit backstage at the Victoria's Secret Fashion show....unfortunately, I don't think either will happen in this lifetime!!!

Best of luck on both initiatives!

48 posted on 08/15/2006 10:45:45 AM PDT by IamConservative (Humility is not thinking less of oneself; humility is thinking about oneself less.)
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To: TWohlford

Just wondering? Where did you hear that Dubya was overweight? He's very light and of average height so I doubt he'd have a high BMI.


49 posted on 09/05/2006 9:47:21 PM PDT by onja ("The government of England is a limited mockery.") (France is a complete mockery.)
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To: onja

Oh. Never mind. This is REALLY old. My apologies.


50 posted on 09/05/2006 9:52:45 PM PDT by onja ("The government of England is a limited mockery.") (France is a complete mockery.)
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To: neverdem
Just a thought:

The obesity rise mirrors the reduction in the use of that noted appetite suppressant, tobacco...
51 posted on 09/05/2006 9:57:31 PM PDT by null and void (Islamic communities belong in Islamic countries.- Eric in the Ozarks)
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To: mysterio
"Don't eat much and weigh yourself every day." Who wants to publish my book? I lost 100 pounds, I have great before and after pictures, and I'm ready to move on this.

Man, you really cracked me up with that.

52 posted on 09/05/2006 9:59:26 PM PDT by Wycowboy
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