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Flying blind: Airport screeners treat everyone the same. They shouldn't
National Post - Canada ^
| Saturday, August 12, 2006
| David Frum
Posted on 08/12/2006 11:02:43 AM PDT by GMMAC
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To: Cobra64
"Most of this "security" is window dressing"
Ever notice how TSA workers all seem to have 40 percent body fat?
Don't you feel real safe knowing the TSA is looking out for us?
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posted on
08/12/2006 9:18:48 PM PDT
by
garjog
(Used to be liberals were just people to disagree with. Now they are a threat to our existence.)
To: rollin
I do that from time to time. ;-)
Thanks.
62
posted on
08/13/2006 5:04:32 AM PDT
by
Badray
(CFR my ass. There's not too much money in politics. There's too much money in government hands.)
To: GMMAC
Political correctness and liberal touchy-feeliness will mean the death of civilization. We are forbidden to even acknowledge the identity of the enemy.
(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em Down Hezbullies.)
63
posted on
08/13/2006 5:16:12 AM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: 3AngelaD
Banning Muslims from airplanes would not do the job. There is at least one example of a muslim male using his unwitting girl friend to smuggle a bomb on an airplane. The bomb exploded killing the girlfriend.
64
posted on
08/13/2006 5:22:49 AM PDT
by
DugwayDuke
(Stupidity can be a self-correcting problem.)
To: lilylangtree
Lipstick too? They've already banned my face moisturer, my contact conditioning solution and cleaner, my contact soaking solution, my hair gel, my hair spray, my shampoo, my hair conditioning lotion, my deodorant (and this is truly a necessity in a confined space with people who don't shower on a daily basis), and my bottled water. When is enough, enough!Stop bringing all your crap on the plane! You probably have a large roller-board, laptop bag and huge purse that takes up three rows of overhead space.
Check your bags.
65
posted on
08/13/2006 5:25:39 AM PDT
by
Erik Latranyi
(The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
To: Monti Cello
The fact that you have to pull an isolated incident out of your butt from 1987 proves the point against you. No, it proves you cannot think past your nose, hence you should never be trusted with security.
66
posted on
08/13/2006 5:27:54 AM PDT
by
Erik Latranyi
(The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
To: garjog
TSA = "Thousands Standing Around"
The airports' concession areas are very secure, however, since that's where you're most likely to find them providing, ah, security.
67
posted on
08/13/2006 5:28:47 AM PDT
by
MarineDad
(Whenever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits.)
To: GMMAC
The liberal hand-wringers had no problem during the DC sniper incident with cops stopping every white guy driving a white truck, even though that turned out to be an erroneous profile. Whereas Muslim males have committed all the recent terrorism here and in Britain, but we can't profile them.
68
posted on
08/13/2006 5:30:06 AM PDT
by
dirtboy
(Why does Israel take border security seriously but we do not, when Islamists wish us both harm?)
To: sockmonkey
Since I know of no instance of eighty year old white men in wheelchairs blowing up planes, I have no idea why they continue to do this.So, you propose to wait until a few planes are brought down by old white men in wheelchairs before we screen them?
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posted on
08/13/2006 5:34:16 AM PDT
by
Erik Latranyi
(The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
To: DugwayDuke
There is at least one example of a muslim male using his unwitting girl friend to smuggle a bomb on an airplane. The bomb exploded killing the girlfriend.Please don't cite inconvenient facts for those smart-asses around here that think they are security experts.
If all those advocating profiling alone were in charge, it would have resulted in thousands of additional deaths since 9/11.
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posted on
08/13/2006 5:37:45 AM PDT
by
Erik Latranyi
(The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
To: sockmonkey
"Since I know of no instance of eighty year old white men in wheelchairs blowing up planes, I have no idea why they continue to do this." It's because this country has lost it's Balls since WWII and has become emasculated by the screeching feminists and their cohorts in the media. Thats why they have to pick on little old people in wheelchairs while Mohammad walks blithely past the checkpoint and takes his seat!d
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posted on
08/13/2006 6:58:33 AM PDT
by
ABN 505
To: GMMAC
Please notice that neither program -- neither risk profiling nor trusted traveller -- would make any use of information about ethnicity or religion. And why not, Mr. Frum?
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posted on
08/13/2006 7:06:44 AM PDT
by
Jim Noble
(I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit - it's the only way to be sure.)
To: Erik Latranyi
Please provide your source documentation for this assertion.
If all those advocating profiling alone were in charge, it would have resulted in thousands of additional deaths since 9/11.
73
posted on
08/13/2006 7:45:57 AM PDT
by
rollin
(q)
To: Names Ash Housewares
Actually I didn't think it was so bad. Of course I brought
a letter from the company I work for (in Hebrew) explaining
the reason for my presence in Israel (that was on departure back to the States, where the full security monte occurrs.).
Keep your passport handy and your hands in plain sight at
all times. Their "TSA" folks even manage to be civil unlike
many of ours.
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posted on
08/13/2006 8:00:55 AM PDT
by
rahbert
To: Jim Noble
"And why not, Mr. Frum? "
Answered in the 4th from last paragraph of Frum's article above:
"Why? Congress and the TSA have surrendered to pressure from advocacy groups who fear that if we concentrate enforcement resources where they will do the most good, we will end up concentrating them upon unattached young Muslim men. Very few Muslims are Islamic terrorists, but all Islamic terrorists are Muslim. Our prescreening process may be ethnically neutral, but the results will not be."
To which I added in post #32 above:
"Liberals love inefficient, cost & time ineffective approaches to most of life's problems & attempt to justify same under the guise of 'fairness' & supposedly proper universality.
Why?
Aside from creating additional government jobs which they can then demand be meted out to their political constituents on the basis of gender & racial quotas, 'shot gun' approaches - by definition - are the antithesis of two concepts which liberals thoroughly reject: individual responsibility & personal accountability."
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posted on
08/13/2006 10:10:02 AM PDT
by
GMMAC
(Discover Canada governed by Conservatives: www.CanadianAlly.com)
To: Cobra64
I quit smoking for a while last spring and thought I had taken all lighters out of my purse. I later discovered I'd made it through security with three of them.
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posted on
08/13/2006 10:22:16 AM PDT
by
Moiraine
To: Erik Latranyi
Stop bringing all your crap on the plane! You probably have a large roller-board, laptop bag and huge purse that takes up three rows of overhead space.Check your bags.
You must not fly much. I hardly ever check bags - not because it is too inconvenient to get them after we land, but because it is too inconvenient to get them when the airline LOSES them. I've only checked bags half a dozen times in the last couple of years and I've had my bags lost or delayed THREE TIMES.
And you are out of your mind if you think that I am checking anything of value. Notebook computers? Cameras? Ipods? If you want to see them again you had best carry them on... I had a package of unopened socks "confiscated" by one of the TSA goons that searched my checked luggage on my last trip. I can handle them stealing a $10 bag of socks, but I'm not going to give them the opportunity to go Christmas shopping through my luggage.
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posted on
08/14/2006 2:43:13 PM PDT
by
TexRef
To: Moiraine
I quit smoking for a while last spring and thought I had taken all lighters out of my purse. I later discovered I'd made it through security with three of them.I know of a similar situation in which a *ahem* friend of mine forgot to take two loaded magazines out of his briefcase. Sailed right through the metal detectors. This was pre-9/11, but still...
Everyone feel safer yet?
78
posted on
08/14/2006 2:45:04 PM PDT
by
TexRef
To: GMMAC
Our prescreening process may be ethnically neutral, but the results will not be. Every FReeper should read Thomas Sowell's A Conflict of Visions to delve deeper into this phenomenon. He treats this subject with his typical, brilliant analysis.
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posted on
08/14/2006 2:49:40 PM PDT
by
TChris
(Banning DDT wasn't about birds. It was about power.)
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