USING THE PROPER LABEL FOR TERRORISTS

neal nuze ^ | 08/11/06 | Boortz

[RBroadfoot]

It's not a "line of thought"; it's a fact that Jesus used the word "Allah" to refer to God.

The conclusions drawn from this fact are up to the individual.

I suppose that this is just a semantic argument we have. We both reject the Qur'an as a source of theological, religious and moral instruction. I argue that it gives a specious description of God and his commandments. You seem to argue that it is attempting to describe a different entity altogether. That argument would apply equally to deny that the Christian's trinitarian God is ontologically different from the Jew's God of the Torah. That argument has led to all sorts of death and destruction over the centuries.

WRT to the Gospel of Mark, it is indeed speculation, but it's educated speculation based upon Greek grammar and Aramaic idiom. Quite a few passages in Mark appear almost verbatim in Dead Sea Scrolls, which are of course in Aramaic. I'm no expert on this topic; I just read and try to understand.

[RichInOC]

USING THE PROPER LABEL FOR TERRORISTS

"Heat to 18-20 million degrees F. Simmer until vaporized."

[theBuckwheat]

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You seem to argue that it is attempting to describe a different entity altogether.
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Yes, exactly. Again, compare how the character of each is seen in how they describe themselves and how their followers act towards them.

Maybe a clearer example would be the deity "Baal" (a Canaanite-Phoenician word that means "master" or "lord"), who was popularly worshiped by Israel, but who is distinctly different in attributes than the Lord worshiped by David in the Psalms.

ref "Is there any evidence that Baal and Lord are equivalent?"

http://www.paleotimes.org/articles/BaalvsLord.htm

Followers of Islam claim that the Koran replaces the Torah, yet the Koran contradicts the Torah far more (IMO) than it complements or agrees with it. If the same deity authored both, why should there be any discontinuity between the two?

A simple example is that the Torah quotes God as saying Israel was his beloved nation. The Koran calls Jews (only one of the 12 tribes of Israel) vile names, that is after calling them "people of the book".

For whole host of reasons, I will let this be my last post on this subject.