Planes vulnerable to bombs built on board, ingredients hidden in daily objects: Experts

The Hindu News ^ | August 10, 2006 | Staff

[taxed2death]

Ban all passengers from Muslim countries. Let them start their own airlines.

[lilylangtree]

Dang! These monsters ruin everything for everybody else. Now I can't board with my bottle of water, my hair gel, my face creams, my acne medicine (cream), etc. This frosts my cookies. I'm ready to kill everyone of these monsters barehanded but if I'm in close proximity, I'll use whatever is handy. I'm really ticked!

[MineralMan]

"There are public toilets on the streets of some cities that automatically open the door after Xminutes.

In part to keep junkies from using them."

Oh, that'll work...for sure. I can see it now....

The fat lady three rows up from you who already takes five minutes just to get enough stuff off to do her business has the door open while she's sitting on the pot.

I don't think any of us want to see that, eh?

[weegee]

The ugly truth is that they launch (as in INITIATE) war on civilians.

They strike people who are not targets.

This is premedatated murder. We can't "profile" this intolerant lot. They are killing the kufir and striking at men, women, and children to make their point.

Beslan could happen over here. The Seattle shooting was not a fluke.

Think of that the next time the media accuses the US of warcrimes.

Would we be permitted to launch missile strikes in retaliation on any nation who's people took to the streets to cheer if this attempt had been successful?

[Alouette]

They just need to get blond haired, blue-eyed Muslim converts to do their bidding. They are already doing this, in fact.

Abut 20 years ago, the Israelis stopped a redheaded, pregnant Irish woman from getting on a plane with a bomb that her Palestinian boyfriend put into her luggage.

[taxcontrol]

Yeah, and I really doubt that someone intent on blowing up the plane is really going to pay attention to that announcement about it being against Federal law to tamper with a smoke detector. Most smoke detectors are in the 3 amp range... that is enough juice for many detonators... but I don't know about igniting raw explosives.

[wyattearp]

Why not shut down the militant mosques enlisting jihadist armies?

Prohibit all Arabs from flying on US Aircraft. If the innocent ones don't like it, let them take it up with their jihadist brothers (whom the "innocent ones" were cheering on 9/11).

If there are Arabs in this country that are not US citizens, kick them out. Students, workers, I don't care. Kick them out. All of them. Do racial profiling, stop them in the street, and kick them all out.

Right now, we are letting more in every day, legally! Those 11 Egyptian Arab students didn't get here before 2001. Why are they here now? What MORON is letting arabs, and muslims into this country?

Pardon me for being paranoid, but it appears as if the US Govt is providing aid and comfort to the enemy as a matter of policy. Are they hoping that this scum kill more Americans on American soil, so that they can take more freedom and liberty from Americans? Is the Govt and the Muslims working together to destroy America? I can see no other reason behind their insanity!

[bobdsmith]

Perhaps some kind of camera set up so that other passengers can watch you in there using their in seat tv screens.

Also perhaps a microphone. Perhaps an air marshal hidden in a false wall?

[weegee]

I don't want to see it. In the streets or in a plane.

Mentioning what already is implemented in the West.

As for me, I drive.

A more proactive solution would be to erradicate this supremacist political ideology as we did Nazism.

We didn't wait for Nazis to strike on our soil.

[TChris]

It's a bad idea. As a profile forms, the enemy switches tactics. They just need to get blond haired, blue-eyed Muslim converts to do their bidding. They are already doing this, in fact. Same with babies and the elderly. As soon as we stop checking any group of people, they will become the next carriers, victims of evil people who don't mind killing anyone to do their nefarious deeds.

I disagree.

First, if intelligent searching for a terrorist's tools of destruction continue, then we have at least the same degree of security as now.

Second, there simply aren't as many "blond-haired, blue-eyed", or other non-traditional, terrorists to be found. By definition, zeroing in on the overwhelmingly most common terrorists, the threat will be significantly reduced.

The fact is, we know who the terrorists are most likely to be (Middle-eastern Muslim young adult males) and we know their most likely tools and tactics (Explosives, knives, hijacking, kidnapping).

If the govt. would quit wasting monumental quantities of time and money keeping up P.C. appearances and instead zero in on the obvious real threat, we'd all be much safer.

[weegee]

It's not just Arabs. You'll find Islamic militants killing in Africa, Indonesia, Chechnya...

[weegee]

What about those from Russia?

[Polyxene]

You and me both!! My husband and I are flying to Vancouver to go on a long-planned cruise to Alaska on Sept. 2nd. I was nervous before -- I think I am going to have to get some tranquilizers for this trip!

[Osage Orange]

Like cell phones....??????????

[wagglebee]

``You can carry a bag into the center of an airport with thousands of people around you before you are ever screened. That, too, must change,'' he said.

Interesting point that I hadn't even thought of before now.

[weegee]

Foreigner Found With Prepaids, Cash In Murrysville Is Held By Feds (August 7, 2006)

GREENSBURG, Pa. -- A man from the Republic of Georgia is being held in the Westmoreland County Prison after he and another man from that country were found with 15 prepaid cell phones and $4,200 in cash, police said.

[snip]

The men said they were immigrants, but each displayed Michigan driver's licenses, police said.

Zakutashvili told police he was in the country illegally, Tappe said. Maisuradze claimed to have a visa, but he said he had forgotten to bring it with him.

The prepaid cell phones, which the men had recently purchased in Monroeville and Murrysville, were found inside the van. Also in the van were a laptop computer and global-positioning software.

[TChris]

What about those from Russia?

How many terrorists from Russia have killed Americans, compared to the number of middle-eastern terrorists?

I'm talking about the most likely threat. There will always be the occasional exception (Tim McVeigh, et al)

The best bang-for-the-American-buck is to pay very close attention to middle-eastern young-adult males. Of course you keep your eyes open for everything/everyone else too, but the bulk of the time, manpower and money should be aimed at the bulk of the threat.

[weegee]

There is no bag checking at shopping mall and much fewer number of cops.

If someone is going to blow up a large number of people in public, expect more "cafe" bombs like are seen in the Middle East, Europe, and Asia.

[goalinestan]

My job takes me from the U.S. to Europe 3-4 times a year, so new security measures and terrorist threats have been affecting me personally since September 11th.

I constantly remind myself (and more importantly my wife) that statistically I have a better chance of dying on the way to the airport than once I am in the air.

Life is full of threats and chances and regardless of how many security measures are put in place, none will ever be full proof when the muslim terrorists have already shown they are willing to die for their insane cause.

For people who fly a lot for work, there are really only two choices...suck it up and live with the risk, knowing it's never going to be resolved...or switch to a job that doesn't require air travel...an idea that doesn't sound too bad on days like this.

[weegee]

See 56. Just "Russian" mob? Or what of that GPS system?

With the 11 Egyptians, this large net being cast, these guys, and who knows what, there may even be several "unrelated" plans with a few decoys (who are meant to be caught) to boot.

Something seems to be in the works.