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Bush: U.S. 'At War With Islamic Fascists'
News Max ^ | Aug. 10, 2006 | NewsMax Staff

Posted on 08/10/2006 10:01:24 AM PDT by conservativecorner

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To: Peisistratus

Again, thanks for your opinion that I haven't read up on Islam.

As with the other one, I happen to think you are wrong.

I am not a muslim, nor do I agree with its tenets. That would be why I am a Roman Catholic, and not a muslim.

What I will not do is generalize about all muslims, and will certainly not engage in the "kill 'em all" rhetoric that some have espoused here.

If that bothers you, tough.


221 posted on 08/12/2006 6:52:10 PM PDT by MarcusAurelious (If you are lost in battle, we're splitting your gear.)
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To: Peisistratus

I don't happen to care why they are attacking us.

I leave such things to ineffectual liberals who ponder why certain people hate us.

I don't care why. I just know they do, and when they try to put their hatred into action, then I blow them full of holes with pork-filled hollow points.

I also don't waste a lot of time pondering why people want me to join them in their hatred. Unless they try to act on their hatred, they have a right to their feelings, just like I do.


222 posted on 08/12/2006 6:55:35 PM PDT by MarcusAurelious (If you are lost in battle, we're splitting your gear.)
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To: MarcusAurelious
Terrorism is a tactic not a group of people. So how can you advocate a war with terrorism? We are at war with Islamic Fascist not terrorism. That is like saying in WWII we are at was with the Blitzkrieg not Germany. How absurd your comments sound. Yeah I can tell your a genius. LOL!

You are either ignorant or not telling the truth. I would like to think the former. Your views of Islam fall right in line with the political correctness nonsence.

Oh and when you wrote "Shoves a spear right through that stupid analogy.". When you say someone is stupid be sure to say it grammatically correct. If you do not, then it only makes your point laughable. LOL!

Yes real Christians do not behave that way. However, if you study Islam you will understand that it does not preach tolerance of any other religion. I use to think just like you until I really examined it. Believe me I do not like saying it, but its a fact. Normally I am a live and let live type of guy. However, when I know they are going to threaten my way of life. Then that is when I am going to go to war. To preserve our way of life.
223 posted on 08/12/2006 8:02:06 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Sprite518
"Terrorism is a tactic not a group of people. So how can you advocate a war with terrorism? We are at war with Islamic Fascist not terrorism. That is like saying in WWII we are at was with the Blitzkrieg not Germany. How absurd your comments sound. Yeah I can tell your a genius. LOL!" And you have resorted to parrotting Santorum. Yup. That makes you a genius. /sarc Let's look at what you said, since you think you are a genius and I am not. (Which is odd, since I've never claimed to be a genius, so you think that somehow I woudl be put out by you asyaing I'm not one. That makes you, what, 12?) You are correct that terrorism is a tactic. Yet we do not reference a war on terrorism, but a war on terror. Unless you went to a government school, you would know that the two are distinctly different. Terrorism is a tactic. Terror is something that can be fought, just as with evil. ter·ror (tĕr'ər) n. -Intense, overpowering fear. See synonyms at fear. -One that instills intense fear: a rabid dog that became the terror of the neighborhood. -The ability to instill intense fear: the terror of jackboots pounding down the street. -Violence committed or threatened by a group to intimidate or coerce a population, as for military or political purposes. e·vil (ç'vəl) n. -The quality of being morally bad or wrong; wickedness. -That which causes harm, misfortune, or destruction: a leader's power to do both good and evil. -An evil force, power, or personification. -Something that is a cause or source of suffering, injury, or destruction: the social evils of poverty and injustice. Unless you are a moron, as I am beginning to suspect, you would agree that one can fight evil. It is a manifestation that can be combatted. Terror is the same. We can fight terror within ourselves, and we can fight terror as a group, and that would apply to any manifestation of the term applied above. If one can fight it, then one can go to war with it, as war is only a greater degree of fighting. You have lamely taken the fact that I do not agree with generalizing with being soft on terrorism. You have then attempted to use every idiotic tool at your disposal to deride me and my position. Let's take a look at that as well. You advocate hatred. You advocate painting all of a group of people as one, based upon the actions of a distinct minority. You advocate the wiping out of a group, based upon the actions of those few. I am a pretty good student of history, and I know of quite a few times when the US went to war with countries who advocated such thoughts. You point to the terrorists and get all over them for that way of thinking. Congratulations. You are just like them. Way to go, genius. Your views of Islam fall right in line with the Islamic radical nonsence. "Oh and when you wrote "Shoves a spear right through that stupid analogy.". When you say someone is stupid be sure to say it grammatically correct. If you do not, then it only makes your point laughable. LOL!" And when you attempt to correct someone's grammar, 1) Be sure you know what you are talking about; and 2) Be sure that it really, really matters; and 3) Use proper grammar yourself. Otherwise it only makes your point laughable. LOL! "Yes real Christians do not behave that way. However, if you study Islam you will understand that it does not preach tolerance of any other religion. I use to think just like you until I really examined it. Believe me I do not like saying it, but its a fact. Normally I am a live and let live type of guy. However, when I know they are going to threaten my way of life. Then that is when I am going to go to war. To preserve our way of life." Thanks for admitting that you are nat acting as a real Christian. I try, and sometimes fail. Yet I firmly believe that there are greater and lesser evils. If I recognize islamic fascism as a great evil, which I do, then I will certainly do everything within my power to not be as evil as they are. Using thermo-nuclear weapons to wipe out the whole Middle East may be real easy, but it would kill millions of innocents. You may want that on your conscience, but I do not. Especially when there are more precise ways of taking out terror and those who use it. Now, if you are going to be truly consistent with your line of thinking, you must: 1) Bomb all trailor parks, because they have high levels of alcoholism, incest, spousal abuse, and drug use. 2) Shoot all kids wearing gang attire, because if they look like gang members, they must all be gang members, and therefore are into drugs, shooting cops, and violence; 3) Kill all blacks, because a high number of blacks commit crimes, do drugs, sponge off of the government through welfare, and elect officials who help them perpetuate their dependency; 4) Fill in the blanks here, to further the theater of the absurd by which I illustrate the folly of your position. And you say you want to preserve out way of life. If your way of thinking is prevalent throughout the US, our way of life is already dead.
224 posted on 08/13/2006 7:54:08 AM PDT by MarcusAurelious (If you are lost in battle, we're splitting your gear.)
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To: MarcusAurelious

LOL! If you went to a private school, then you need to ask for a refund. I am beginning to see, rational, linear analysis of objective facts does not cut it with you. You must be godless nihilists who hate mostly everything but particularly the Christian faith with its emphasis on individuality and freedom and its rejection of the commie notion of god on earth. The nihilists, from the MainSlimeMedia on down - whose current 'central organizing principle' [in the deathless terms first popularized by the Goron] is a malignant, self-putrefying hatred of Christians, because most of them are too dim and/or devious to scrutinize the true wellsprings of their hatred, namely, fear and loathing of real Americans and their love of freedom. Your fear and loathing also drives you without any regard for certain effects on the nation's security in time of war. Such conduct in time of war makes traitors and quislings, from the Democrat 'leaders' in Congress right down to little, brain dead, forty something school teachers. While I have over simplified a lot of the reasons, I do believe that trying to bring you around to the side of freedom and righteousness is generally a waste of time. If you ever decide to abandon the dark side, it will be due to some inner revelation or redefining personal experience.


225 posted on 08/13/2006 8:54:34 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Sprite518

LOL!

I can see that complex thought processes are way too beyond your skill level.

"You must be godless nihilists who hate mostly everything but particularly the Christian faith with its emphasis on individuality and freedom and its rejection of the commie notion of god on earth."

Remember what I said about you correcting grammar, when you cannot correctly use it yourself? ROTF! You must be one of those ignoramuses who thinks that someone disagreeing with your crappy POV means that you get to paint them into pretty little niches. What a sad and pointless life to live. I guess it is yours to live, but I refuse to live like that.

"Your fear and loathing also drives you without any regard for certain effects on the nation's security in time of war. Such conduct in time of war makes traitors and quislings, from the Democrat 'leaders' in Congress right down to little, brain dead, forty something school teachers."

I served 12 years of my life in the Infantry, giving lie to your weak assertion that I have no regard for certain effects on the nation's security. I have a younger brother who has done more on the front-line on the war against terror then you could ever dream of in your juvenile rantings.

Traitors and quislings? ROTFLMAO! Coming from someone such as yourself, that amuses me greatly!

Abandon the dark side? To become like you, afraid of innocent people who have done nothing to you? Become paranoid about every little shadow? Become filled with hate and lash out at defenseless people?

Fat chance. I defend the weak and helpless from people like you. You ARE the dark side. To you, the ends justify the means, and that is evil itself.

If you were hoping to shame me, because I won;t think like you, you failed. I am honored that I will not be a bigot.

Take your pipe somewhere else and smoke it.


226 posted on 08/13/2006 11:36:57 AM PDT by MarcusAurelious (If you are lost in battle, we're splitting your gear.)
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To: MarcusAurelious

"I don't happen to care why they are attacking us. "

So, you prefer ignorance as a tactic. Interesting. Sun Tzu would not approve.

"I leave such things to ineffectual liberals who ponder why certain people hate us. "

The "ineffectual liberals" ponder that so they can get them to like us. Conservatives ponder that so we can name our enemy.

"I also don't waste a lot of time pondering why people want me to join them in their hatred. Unless they try to act on their hatred, they have a right to their feelings, just like I do."

They have a right to wish to kill you? Are you serious? I wonder if you'd have held this view during the Second World War....


227 posted on 08/13/2006 4:33:18 PM PDT by Peisistratus (Islam delende est)
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To: MarcusAurelious

"And to be consistent, your bigotry is evil. "

It's personally rational to discriminate against those who preach your downfall in their mosques.

You'd have fit in quite well a the NYT in the 30s, Mr. Duranty.


228 posted on 08/13/2006 4:35:06 PM PDT by Peisistratus (Islam delende est)
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