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Black flag: Unsers busted at crime scene
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| 8/9/2006
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Posted on 08/09/2006 5:00:14 PM PDT by JennysCool
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To: Orange1998
I have no beef with your scepticism of the media but I fail to see how that leads to the presumption that the Unsers' property rights were violated. I'm just having a tough time imagining a cop who has nothing better to do than prevent someone walking past a dead man in a car on the street.
61
posted on
08/09/2006 5:52:48 PM PDT
by
1rudeboy
To: JennysCool
But, did they blame the jews?
To: JennysCool
Awwww, they were busted because they wouldn't leave. I thought they were chased down. Don't you know the cop that caught Al and Bobby Unser in a car chase would have bragging rights for the rest of his life?
63
posted on
08/09/2006 5:54:47 PM PDT
by
Richard Kimball
(The most important thing is sincerity. Once you can fake that, everything else is easy.)
To: Richard Kimball
That story woulda been news for days. I can just imagine the fun Leno and Letterman (especially Letterman, being an Indy guy) would have had with it!
64
posted on
08/09/2006 5:57:51 PM PDT
by
JennysCool
(Roll out the Canarble Wagon!)
To: Orange1998
Wow! That's the kind of post that keeps libertarians with 2% of the vote. Police don't need a warrant if they have probable cause, and a guy running around with a sawed off shotgun is probable cause. They can also order people to a safe area when they're putting themselves in danger, and yes, it's all settled case law.
I've even been known to have a guy dragged out of a burning building who was going back in to rescue his cat. Yes, we rescued the cat, and no we didn't have to do CPR on it.
65
posted on
08/09/2006 6:01:48 PM PDT
by
Richard Kimball
(The most important thing is sincerity. Once you can fake that, everything else is easy.)
To: sinkspur
Civilian police forces are not the USA DOD, and however much they really wannabe, I will never cede them the powers of undeclared Martial Law on the CONUS.
Chances are high that a large percentage of the affected citizen population denied the free pursuit of their health, wealth and happiness were screwed by inept local police force stupidity in this situation.
You may think submission to "police authority" is a natural human response.
I do not.
I hope the Ungers sue them out of existence.
66
posted on
08/09/2006 6:03:20 PM PDT
by
sarasmom
(To all political staff lurkers: SECURE THE BORDERS, OR YOU'RE FIRED!)
To: 1rudeboy
If the Unsers were ordered off their own property and they refused to leave, especially if other family were still on the property, I tend to side with the Unsers. The Cop's need more to order them off their own property.
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posted on
08/09/2006 6:05:20 PM PDT
by
DB
(©)
To: 1rudeboy
To: sarasmom; Richard Kimball
The police do have authority to keep you off your own property under certain situations just as fire men do as described in number 65.
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posted on
08/09/2006 6:08:00 PM PDT
by
Graybeard58
(Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
To: DB
While the incident was still unfolding, Bernalillo County sheriff's investigators allege Al Unser started going through a roadblock in an attempt to get to his property. [emphasis added]
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posted on
08/09/2006 6:09:20 PM PDT
by
1rudeboy
To: Graybeard58
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posted on
08/09/2006 6:10:01 PM PDT
by
sarasmom
(To all political staff lurkers: SECURE THE BORDERS, OR YOU'RE FIRED!)
To: sinkspur
Al's need to get to the beer cooler is secondary to law enforcement's need to defuse the situation. What other rights go by the wayside when law enforcement needs to "defuse" something? I thought that's what the Constitution was for, to set limits on those sorts of things.
How did you know the Unsers were trying to get to the beer cooler?
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posted on
08/09/2006 6:10:30 PM PDT
by
IronJack
To: Orange1998
That dramatic conclusion happened at an intersection close to some Unser family property. Public road. Near but not on the Unser's property. The cops were doing their job and the Unsers, in their self-absorbed arrogance, were endangering themselves, the police and the public. Hey, maybe the Unsers are "libertarians" too?
To: sarasmom
I hope you never have to find out the hard way.
74
posted on
08/09/2006 6:13:08 PM PDT
by
Graybeard58
(Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
To: rogue yam
Now you've done it. I have the mental image of libertarians blasting their way through roadblocks all over the United States.
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posted on
08/09/2006 6:13:42 PM PDT
by
1rudeboy
To: All
"While the incident was still unfolding, Bernalillo County sheriff's investigators allege Al Unser
started going through a roadblock in an attempt to
get to his property."Where in the world were anybody's property rights violated here? It was stated that the incident was near Unser property and that the Unsers attempted to blow a roadblock because they are special.
To: sarasmom
Chances are high that a large percentage of the affected citizen population denied the free pursuit of their health, wealth and happiness were screwed by inept local police force stupidity in this situation. With all due respect, this is just about the dumbest thing I have ever read on FR. Really and truly. You fail to see that a man with a shotgun was in a standoff with police, apparently.
I hope the Ungers sue them out of existence.
On what basis? That the cops kept these two hot dogs from getting their heads blown off?
The Unsers will be lucky to get off with a slap on the wrist and a public apology for making asses of themselves.
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posted on
08/09/2006 6:13:57 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
(Today, we settled all family business.)
To: Graybeard58
To: IronJack
How did you know the Unsers were trying to get to the beer cooler? Just a guess.
I thought that's what the Constitution was for, to set limits on those sorts of things.
The police are charged with protecting the citizenry. One of the ways they do that is prevent hot-heads from walking into a standoff with a suicidal creep.
79
posted on
08/09/2006 6:16:56 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
(Today, we settled all family business.)
To: IronJack
The cops are their "betters" when they're in pursuit and working a crime scene. What part of the Constitution is that in?
Why don't you go interfere with a crime scene, get yourself arrested, and run your case all the way to the Supreme Court? Then you'll know.
80
posted on
08/09/2006 6:19:35 PM PDT
by
Moonman62
(The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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