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Gallagher considers quitting race for governor
Miami Herald ^ | 8/9/2006 | MARY ELLEN KLAS

Posted on 08/09/2006 5:08:17 AM PDT by Happy Valley Dude

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To: MedNole

Oh, please. Charlie Crist doesn't own real property, I believe he rents a car. His dad does his bookwork for him. He has no wife and kids. He joined the AARP. He cherishes his friends who are in the euthanasia movement. Watch the next debate. Charlie is polished but confused polished.


81 posted on 08/09/2006 7:02:19 AM PDT by floriduh voter (End the Social Promotion of Charlie Crist! Vote for Tom Gallagher www.tg2006.com)
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To: BykrBayb
Religion should have NO place in politics and Gallagher should steer away from the religious right-wing with their narrow-minded piety,

Man that is just dripping with venom. This person is a true bigot, to think that one's faith should be segregated into a seperate compartment and shut up tight unless one is at home, alone or in church. I certainly don't see athiests withholding their anti-faith from public life. What a sh#tty double standard.

Sounding like a Christian zealot

I'm glad I don't have to go through life with such a pungent cynicism for anyone who claims a religious faith. Thanks for posting this, it is very enlightening. If this is the sort that supports Crist then he can go pound sand, just like you said, rather than turning the target base away this is a glowing endorsement for anyone sick of RINO's infiltrating the conservative movement by having an R by thier name but holding to none of the conservative values that designation implies.

82 posted on 08/09/2006 7:03:33 AM PDT by TheKidster
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To: floriduh voter
Oh, please. Charlie Crist doesn't own real property, I believe he rents a car. His dad does his bookwork for him. He has no wife and kids. He joined the AARP. He cherishes his friends who are in the euthanasia movement. Watch the next debate. Charlie is polished but confused polished.

LOL, way to stay on topic and address the four issues I numbered for you above :) I knew you wouldn't, so I'm done trying.

83 posted on 08/09/2006 7:04:30 AM PDT by MedNole
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To: Happy Valley Dude

Email jeb. If you don't get a reply, that's your answer.


84 posted on 08/09/2006 7:05:24 AM PDT by floriduh voter (End the Social Promotion of Charlie Crist! Vote for Tom Gallagher www.tg2006.com)
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To: floriduh voter
I'll vote for the democrat.

Then move to Illinois! I'm sure they'll be happy to have ya.

85 posted on 08/09/2006 7:07:14 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: MedNole
I am under no obligation to you or your subsidiaries to defend my posts. I've been keeping an eye on Charlie Crist longer than you have. There's no way I can recall Crist's positions because he does flip flop but I recall last year, he was very wishy washy on eminent domain. I was pinged to a thread about it.

My long term memory is excellent but don't expect me to go back five years to reconstruct for you the evolution of Charlie Crist into his current state as a REPUBLICAN IN NAME ONLY.

86 posted on 08/09/2006 7:09:22 AM PDT by floriduh voter (End the Social Promotion of Charlie Crist! Vote for Tom Gallagher www.tg2006.com)
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To: floriduh voter; OPS4; JulieRNR21; tutstar
Democratic Senator Bill Nelson took the State of Florida out of the national insurance pool when he was the State Insurance Commissioner. That's when Florida's insurance troubles began.

Thanks go out to BILL NELSON.

WE NEED TO EXPOSE THE MULTI-FACED ex. "ASS-NAUT" CADET ON THIS SERIOUS "CRIME" HE COMMITTED AS INSURANCE COMMISSIONER, AND THAT HE ILLEGALLY RECEIVED $75,000 FROM "RISCORP"!!!

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - A lot of Floridians have had this experience: they get word from their homeowners insurance company - call it XYZ Florida Insurance - that their premium's going up because of huge losses. A couple weeks later, they see a story in the business pages about XYZ Insurance USA, based in Connecticut, reporting a big profit.

How's that? National insurance companies often carve out their Florida business into a separate company, insulating the parent company from losses in the hurricane-prone state.

Republican gubernatorial candidate Charlie Crist said Tuesday that the practice should end, and argued that national companies ought to spread the risk to other states, which he argues would help keep Florida homeowners' rates lower. "I think that's a shell game," Crist said in an interview with The Associated Press. "They have this fiction they create - a legal fiction that we can make illegal - that they will set up this separate Florida corporation which then gives them then the opportunity to go to the appointed insurance commissioner and say, 'Look at the horrible losses we've had' ... completely ignoring the fact that their national parent has been making billions and billions and billions." "It's ludicrous," said Crist, who is currently Florida's attorney general and vying with state Chief Financial Officer Tom Gallagher to be the Republican nominee for governor.

Insurance companies say it's not that simple and argue that if they had to charge higher rates elsewhere to make up for repeated losses in Florida they'd simply bail out of Florida. Many Florida policyholders don't realize that their big name Florida insurance company is separate from the "mothership" and when they find out, they don't understand why. "The answer is that otherwise the mothership wouldn't do business in this state," said George Grawe, an executive vice president at Allstate Floridian, which is technically separate from the national company, Allstate. "The reason that a company like Allstate needs to have the ability to operate a separate and distinct entity like Allstate Floridian is that otherwise we wouldn't be able to write home insurance policies in Florida." The Florida offshoots are known as "pup companies." They've been allowed in Florida since 1996, four years after Hurricane Andrew destroyed much of Homestead, causing $30 billion in damage. Companies were threatening to leave.

Gallagher, Crist's opponent in the Republican primary, generally agrees, having said the rules never should have been changed to allow such Florida-only companies. But he's also said during his campaign that now that they do exist, "the genie can't be put back in the bottle." Insurance regulators and company officials say that if the pups were shut down or forced to be absorbed by their national parents, not only would some pull out, the shareholders of the national firms would sue.

Grawe noted that before 1992, the parent Allstate did have policies in Florida, but "the losses sustained as a result of Hurricane Andrew nearly caused Allstate to become insolvent." Most large insurance companies have similar fears about Florida - which is why so many people here have problems finding a policy. "A company cannot allow one state to threaten their solvency," said Sam Miller, a spokesman for the Florida Insurance Council, which represents several property insurance companies.

Allstate Floridian and other large insurers have been bailed out by their parent companies on a few occasions in recent years. After the Florida company took a big loss from the 2004 hurricanes, its parent company pumped $300 million into it and provided backup again in 2005. Other companies have done the same, Miller noted.

Insurance companies also note that insurance companies are regulated at the state level - not nationally. That means they have to justify their rates to a state insurance regulator. And they argue that it would be hard for a company to go before a state insurance regulator in Michigan, for example, to argue it needs higher rates there to make up for hurricane losses in Florida, insurance executives say. Or, as Grawe put it, "The rate in the state is dependent on the loss you have in that state."

Meanwhile on Tuesday, a state panel appointed by Gov. Jeb Bush began a series of meetings aimed at making recommendations on what lawmakers should do to deal with rising home insurance costs and the difficulty homeowners and companies have in getting coverage. Democrats renewed calls for lawmakers to return to work on changing the law sooner, rather than waiting for the panel to make recommendations.

Democrats in the Legislature have suggested a state insurance fund that would pay out damages after hurricanes up to a certain point, at which time private insurance would kick in. That idea has been rejected by Bush and other Republicans as unworkable. "While Republicans stall waiting for yet another unelected commission, homeowners and small businesses continue to be hammered by insurance company rate increases," said Rep. Dan Gelber, D-Miami Beach, who will be the House Democratic leader next year. "The only way to solve this problem is to bring everyone back to Tallahassee, lock the doors and demand a solution."

87 posted on 08/09/2006 7:12:09 AM PDT by danamco
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To: floriduh voter

LOL, so you have no proof to counter my evidence on question 2. Care to address #1,3, or 4?


88 posted on 08/09/2006 7:15:20 AM PDT by MedNole
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To: OXENinFLA

Crist is soooooooooo bad that I would vote for the dem. Republican love is blind, I understand that. I'm not joining the DNC but I despise RINOS. They are destroying the GOP!


89 posted on 08/09/2006 7:15:55 AM PDT by floriduh voter (End the Social Promotion of Charlie Crist! Vote for Tom Gallagher www.tg2006.com)
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To: TheKidster

Time to install my computer updates, reboot my computer, and say some prayers. That's the way us right-wing religious nuts are, don't you know? At least we're still welcome at Free Republic. We just have to step over the trolls, moles and other assorted speed bumps.


90 posted on 08/09/2006 7:16:26 AM PDT by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest." Þ)
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To: MedNole
I totally agree. I think Gallagher has a real shot at taking out Nelson, but Harris would have to step aside. From everything I've heard, Harris has zero intention of stepping aside, and nobody (including the Bushs) could convince her otherwise.

NO WAY JOSE! Because there are NO other electable candidates than Congresswoman Ms. Kathrine Harris!!

KATHRINE HARRIS FOR SENATE!!!

91 posted on 08/09/2006 7:16:55 AM PDT by danamco
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To: BurtSB
K Harris really screwed up the fl senate race.

LOOSER mentality at its best!!!

Is the election already over???

92 posted on 08/09/2006 7:19:48 AM PDT by danamco
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To: danamco

Don't get me wrong, I voted for her in the primary and I'll vote for her in the general if she wins. For whatever reason, a lot of Dems and independents HATE her with a passion, which would make it very tough to win the general election. You've seen the polls that show her down 38 points. Before he committed to the governor's race, Gallagher was beating Sen. Nelson in every published poll. I think he should have switched races.


93 posted on 08/09/2006 7:23:16 AM PDT by MedNole
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To: floriduh voter
Crist is soooooooooo bad that I would vote for the dem. Republican love is blind, I understand that. I'm not joining the DNC but I despise RINOS. They are destroying the GOP!

On which issues do you agree with the Democrats over Crist?
94 posted on 08/09/2006 7:23:23 AM PDT by Happy Valley Dude
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To: MedNole
Your posts have given me a headache. Badgering people doesn't work.

Instead, why don't you tell us why Charlie Crist deserves another social promotion?

I must leave immediately to apply Activon directly to the forehead.

95 posted on 08/09/2006 7:23:27 AM PDT by floriduh voter (End the Social Promotion of Charlie Crist! Vote for Tom Gallagher www.tg2006.com)
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To: The Old Hoosier
She may lose the primary. She also may be indicted or committed to a mental institution before the primary takes place...

Nice try again: LOOSER, who professes President Reagan as his/her "hero"!

Just remember his 11th commandment: NEVER, EVER TALK NEGATIVELY (BAD) ABOUT ANOTHER FELLOW RUPUBLICAN AND ESPECIALLY A CONSERVATIVE!!

Go and take another look at your OWN "About page"!!!

96 posted on 08/09/2006 7:27:07 AM PDT by danamco
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To: Happy Valley Dude
more tit for tat? HVD, Crist is the special interest candidate. Everybody in Florida loses except his circle if lobbyists and special interests.

The Republican Party needs to vet out RINOS and get back to basics before it's too late. True conservatives expect nothing short of that.

97 posted on 08/09/2006 7:27:09 AM PDT by floriduh voter (End the Social Promotion of Charlie Crist! Vote for Tom Gallagher www.tg2006.com)
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To: MedNole
Don't bother. They don't believe in the polls. They believe that all the polls and news articles and everything else that has gone wrong in the campaign is one big conspiracy against Harris. That the GOP and the media are in together on the conspiracy. That is all I will say here about this topic since this thread is about the primary for Governor.
98 posted on 08/09/2006 7:30:43 AM PDT by FloridianBushFan (I support National Security. I SUPPORT HR4437 . Will McBride for US Senate)
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To: floriduh voter

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1678109/posts


99 posted on 08/09/2006 7:33:21 AM PDT by floriduh voter (End the Social Promotion of Charlie Crist! Vote for Tom Gallagher www.tg2006.com)
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To: floriduh voter
Crist partnered with the AARP and also joined. Charlie Crist and Harry Belafonte, proud members of the AARP.

Belafonte said that President Bush was the world's worst terrorist. He said it when he was with Hugo Chavez in Venezuela.

WOW, we are getting somewhere now, mucho interesting!!!

100 posted on 08/09/2006 7:33:22 AM PDT by danamco
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