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Lazy People Don't Get Rich
Yahoo! Finance ^ | August 8, 2006 | Robert Kiyosaki

Posted on 08/08/2006 7:11:51 AM PDT by stainlessbanner

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To: stainlessbanner
This guy is a really brilliant SCAMMER.

He succeeds breathtakingly at tapping into legitimate disgust with laziness, secularism, and contempt for the military, and quick as a flash he's got his red, white and blue palm in your back-pocket, fishing around for your wallet.

Multi-level marketing? A really smart SNAKE...!

101 posted on 08/08/2006 1:02:17 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: stainlessbanner

And thousands of lefties are just hanging on your every word, just waiting for you to say something that they can lie and twist into racistsexisthomofobeislamofobe and sue your xxx off.
They won't have to work. They can be lazy. They can covet your money.


102 posted on 08/08/2006 1:05:48 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Leftism is the ideology of nihilism, despair, nothingness and death.)
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To: stainlessbanner

Doesn't seem like very many people read the article or got past some minor criticism of Bush.

Otherwise we'd see them cheering for a proponent of a hard work ethic who despises phoniness.

Instead we have whiners harping about Sunday School lessons and taste in TV programs.

Some days it is just embarrassing to see what 'freepers' write in replies!


103 posted on 08/08/2006 1:08:24 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: stainlessbanner
There is a real estate investor named John T. Reed who has a website with interesting analyses of many of the financial gurus. He has completely deconstructed Robert Kiyosaki.
104 posted on 08/08/2006 1:09:06 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: Lancey Howard

"It's not fair. I think the government should confiscate money from ambitious, hard-working rich people and give it over to lazy poor people." - - typical Democrat



Where is that in the article? I missed it.

I did see this however:

"Another word that begins with "L" is "loser." Over the years, I've met many losers who pray to God to give them gold. They'll never get it that way because, as the Sunday school I went to taught me, God helps those who help themselves. Again, the conquistadors may have been killers and thieves, but at least they knew how to help themselves."


105 posted on 08/08/2006 1:11:55 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: HungarianGypsy
You have to understand that most people aren't salesmen either. In order to do MLM you need to sell. It's not about being lazy.

True. It won't work without a certain type of extroverted (and IMO, unpleasant) personality.

106 posted on 08/08/2006 1:15:48 PM PDT by Sloth ('It Takes A Village' is problematic when you're raising your child in Sodom.)
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To: Maneesh

I don't know if levering up to the gills and getting lucky in a bull market is what I would consider to be "hard work."

I'd also say that, if in fact this gentleman is heavily invested in residential property today, and has borrowed extensively to do so, as he implies, I bet he's getting a little nervous. Maybe that's why he wrote this nasty venal little screed.


107 posted on 08/08/2006 1:19:32 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: Pukin Dog

Dittos with your observations on the utter stupidity of most of the posters on this thread.


108 posted on 08/08/2006 1:20:47 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: Puppage; stainlessbanner

Nothing irks me more than some moose twit making blanket statements without any authority of proof. As if this wonton is anybody who knows anything about anyone or anything.


109 posted on 08/08/2006 1:22:16 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

The author says that laziness is not the road to prosperity and you wish to disagree with him?

Ok.......


110 posted on 08/08/2006 1:32:02 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: Eagle Eye

That wasn't me, it was the person who posted the picture of Moore-on.


111 posted on 08/08/2006 1:39:51 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: babble-on
I don't know if levering up to the gills and getting lucky in a bull market is what I would consider to be "hard work."

I'd also say that, if in fact this gentleman is heavily invested in residential property today, and has borrowed extensively to do so, as he implies, I bet he's getting a little nervous. Maybe that's why he wrote this nasty venal little screed."

Obviously you do not know Kiyosaki's story. He made his money initially running businesses, which is what he recommends to all his readers. he recommends real estate as the best place to put your money to work, he never says that real estate alone is the way to wealth. He clearly states that you have to own a business which provides ongoing income and inculcates the mindset to become a successful investor. Kiyosaki worked for decades before he got wealthy and at one time lived in his car, nothing was handed to him.
112 posted on 08/08/2006 1:51:46 PM PDT by Maneesh (A non-hyphenated American.)
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To: stainlessbanner
One of the things I loved most about the Marine Corps was that I never had to worry about what anyone was thinking. When I was preparing to be an officer, there was no sensitivity training.

"Kiyosaki makes much of his Marine background—at least when he’s not claiming to be an anti-war protestor. The Marine Corps, to their discredit, bragged about him on their official Web site, apparently without checking out what he told them."

"How do you get to be a Marine? On cable TV, I learned that you have to go through Marine Corps boot camp culminating in a multi-day test called “The Crucible.” If you successfully complete it, you are awarded the right to wear the coveted “eagle, globe, and anchor” badge of the Marine Corps."

"Did Kiyosaki go through Marine boot camp? Nope."

"He did go through the U.S, Merchant Marine Academy plebe year which is arguably harder and longer. But that makes you a Merchant Marine Academy cadet, not a Marine."

"Marine officers generally do not go through boot camp. That’s for enlisted men. Officers typically graduate from the U.S. Naval Academy—the one that rejected Kiyosaki for not being smart enough. Or they graduate from a college ROTC program. The Merchant Marine Academy probably had that. But even then, I believe you have to go through something called Marine Platoon Leader Class after college. I would expect that they may not wear the “eagle, globe, and anchor” badge until they successfully complete that Marine training."

"Did Kiyosaki go through Marine Platoon Leader School? Nope."

"So how did he get to be a Marine?"

"He was a Navy officer in helicopter school. The Vietnam war was winding down, so the Navy decided they had too many pilots and decided to stop training Kiyosaki and his fight-school classmates to save money. The Marines, on the other hand, still wanted more helicopter pilots. By letting Kiyosaki and his helicopter classmates make a lateral transfer to the Marine Corps, the Marines could save the amount of money the Navy had already spent training them. In other words, to the Marine Corps, Kiyosaki was a pilot trainee who was “on sale” for half price or “overstock.”

"In World War II, officers who graduated from Officer Candidate School were called “90-day wonders.” By that standard, Kiyosaki is a “zero-day wonder” in terms of Marine training—an instant Marine. He passed no “crucible” or its predecessor tests. He just filled out some paperwork and made a wardrobe change."

"Did he serve in the Marine Corps? Yes."

"I have no problem with him claiming he served in the Marine Corps. But in his interview on the Marine Corps Web site and elsewhere, he has laid on the “Marine Corps made me what I am today” stuff pretty thick for a guy who came through the Marine Corps’ “back door,” skipping the notoriously difficult training that virtually all other Marines had to complete successfully before they could “claim the title of United States Marines.” (a line from the U.S. Corps Marine Corps Hymn)"

"If any military training made Kiyosaki what he is today, it is the Merchant Marine Academy, not the Marine Corps. The U.S. Marine Corps has a magnificent reputation. Unlike a relatively unknown institution like the Merchant Marine Academy, they do not need the likes of Kiyosaki to add to their name recognition. The Marine Corps should be eager to make sure that the Merchant Marine Academy gets all the “credit” for making Kiyosaki what he is today." - link

113 posted on 08/08/2006 2:06:12 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: Froufrou

Got it, sorry.


114 posted on 08/08/2006 6:06:16 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: OneWingedShark
Who said anything about everyone being born the same?

Actually my argument was with the idea that anyone could be rich, if they weren't lazy. Which was the real jist of post 1.

115 posted on 08/08/2006 7:53:28 PM PDT by itsahoot (The home of the Free, Because of the Brave (Shamelessly stolen from a Marine))
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To: stainlessbanner; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; livius; ...
First of all, I'm an entrepreneur. I've been starting companies since I was a kid. I never wanted to be an employee -- I always wanted to be in control.
Anyone have a list of the companies he has started?
116 posted on 08/08/2006 8:01:39 PM PDT by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: OneWingedShark

When you've got God as a friend, you're never alone.


117 posted on 08/09/2006 6:26:13 AM PDT by wizr (Live life with a Passion!)
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To: wizr
Quite true. Though there are points in my life [and presumably yours] where it feels as if He isn't there... and those times are where you put your faith to the test, where you have to take Him at His word when He promises "I'll never leave or forsake you".
118 posted on 08/09/2006 7:00:49 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.)
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To: Maneesh

I have no problem with money making after an honest fashion. I agree that a lot of immigrants come here and make a bundle while many native Americans do not. It is simply that the pursuit of happiness is not necessarily the same as the pursuit of money.


119 posted on 08/09/2006 3:45:10 PM PDT by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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To: Maneesh
that LAZY People in fact do not get rich, that is a fact isn't it. Maybe that statement hit a little too close to home for some people !

I completely agree. Lazy people do not get rich (unless they inherit or win the Lotto). That said, there are conservatives who subordinate All Things to a Free Market Ideal which is a product of Classical Liberalism and Conservatives who subordinate All Things to their Faith. This can play out quite differently in the end...

120 posted on 08/09/2006 3:54:03 PM PDT by TradicalRC ("...this present Constitution, which will be valid henceforth, now, and forever..."-Pope St. Pius V)
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