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The Democrats Impeachment Roadmap
National Review Online ^ | August 7, 2006 | Byron York

Posted on 08/07/2006 5:32:36 PM PDT by Mike10542

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Conyers - one big reason for all of us to kiss and make up and vote come November, 2006.
1 posted on 08/07/2006 5:32:38 PM PDT by Mike10542
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To: Mike10542

Sorry about the accidental double posting - moderator please remove one. Thank you.


2 posted on 08/07/2006 5:34:05 PM PDT by Mike10542
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There is one simple reason why the Democrats want to impeach GW Bush:

Payback for the Impeachment of their precious boy Clinton.

Clinton deserved Impeachment, and if the Senate had gonads, he would have been removed from office. All the talk about impeaching Bush is just raw anger and vengeance.

3 posted on 08/07/2006 5:38:54 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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I would expect that as the country's divisions harden, impeachment will become a rather common occurrence whenever the party controlling Congress differs from the party of the President.


4 posted on 08/07/2006 5:40:08 PM PDT by speedy
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We shouldn't let them get the chance, but I'll tell you what impeachment against Clinton got us. A huge blowback where we nearly lost Congress.

President Bush wouldn't be convicted in the Senate any more than Clinton would.

It's a sad day in American history if we get to the point where every time a party holding the majority in the House feels compelled to impeach a President of the other party.


5 posted on 08/07/2006 5:42:09 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: speedy
I would expect that as the country's divisions harden, impeachment will become a rather common occurrence whenever the party controlling Congress differs from the party of the President.

If it prevented them from 'doing the people's business' I'm all for it.

6 posted on 08/07/2006 5:42:18 PM PDT by IncPen (Bush Iraq Truth WMD http://freedomkeys.com/whyiraq.htm)
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To: Mike10542

They can try what they want- they will fail.


7 posted on 08/07/2006 5:51:44 PM PDT by Shanty Shaker
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We shouldn't let them get the chance, but I'll tell you what impeachment against Clinton got us. A huge blowback where we nearly lost Congress.

The Republicans failed to offer a simple message: We'd rather have Clinton as a lame-duck president than have to run against an incumbent Al Gore in 2000. But it doesn't matter that leaving Clinton in office would be better for us politically than removing him. If it turns out he committed acts worthy of removal from office, we will be duty-bound to remove him even though we'd rather not.

How could the Democrats have responded to that?

8 posted on 08/07/2006 5:52:48 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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"Conyers - one big reason for all of us to kiss and make up and vote come November, 2006.

If the Republicans don't hold onto the house this will all be reality. In the meanwhile Islamic terrorists will be targeting us as much as ever if not more.

9 posted on 08/07/2006 5:56:49 PM PDT by KoRn
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That argument, true as it is, was well over the head of the American public and the media who filtered the news to them.

The Democrats had a much more simple message that resounded. It's all about sex.

It wasn't, of course, but politics isn't about winning the argument intellectually. It's about winning the argument emotionally.


10 posted on 08/07/2006 5:57:42 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Mike10542
When I watch and listen to Hugo Chavez (recalling that he was popularly elected), I also have to think of the American Left. Of course Conyers is typical of the Left. He wants to return the Democrats to power in a manner that will assure that they will not be again endangered. Impeachment of the current administration, not just the President, is that manner. Just as democracy is a distant memory in Venezuela, it could be here.

This Fall's election is enormously important.

12 posted on 08/07/2006 6:02:20 PM PDT by JimSEA ( "The purpose of diplomacy is to prolong a crisis." Spock)
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That argument, true as it is, was well over the head of the American public and the media who filtered the news to them.

I never heard anyone even try to make that argument. Did someone (besides me) actually do so?

13 posted on 08/07/2006 6:07:29 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: JimSEA

Conyers is a half-ass nitwit....talks with mush in
his mouth....worst Congressman from Michigan and he
uses the race card every damn chance he gets....the
impeachment of President Bush would be a boon to the
terrorists in the world..but let them go at it...it
wlll be the crowning blow in the death of the party
with the "D" by their names...... Jake


14 posted on 08/07/2006 6:08:20 PM PDT by sanjacjake
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To: Mike10542

Dem bozos fergit who has da guns...


15 posted on 08/07/2006 6:15:45 PM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "P" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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I'm not sure. We hashed every angle imaginable back in those crazy days.

It is clear that had Clinton been removed, we'd probably have Al Gore as President today, or at least we'd sure have had him until 2004. Incumbency would have been worth 538 votes in Florida, without a doubt.

I'd be willing to speculate that if Bush is impeached next year by Nancy Pelosi's gang, it will backfire on them bigtime. It will send Hillary down in flames.

If it weren't for the WOT, it's almost an outcome I'd like to see play out.

But fact is, this country doesn't need the political distraction. There's a war going on.


16 posted on 08/07/2006 6:19:04 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Mike10542

We may actually need to split the country up somewhere here before too much longer. We probably ought to have some sort of a plan for it.


17 posted on 08/07/2006 6:28:32 PM PDT by tomzz
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My congresscritter -- Defazio -- is equally nitwitted but more judicious in his speech when here in his district. However he would dearly love a good rousing impeachment. They would have to get Cheney and Rice as well for any legitimacy (not to mention succession)
18 posted on 08/07/2006 6:28:34 PM PDT by JimSEA ( "The purpose of diplomacy is to prolong a crisis." Spock)
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To: Dog Gone
It's a sad day in American history if we get to the point where every time a party holding the majority in the House feels compelled to impeach a President of the other party.

It's a testament to show how sad the voting population is and how ill informed most people are.

19 posted on 08/07/2006 6:32:13 PM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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What kind of plan?


20 posted on 08/07/2006 6:35:49 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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