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U.S. to Help Train, Equip Lebanon Army
Forbes.com ^ | 08.03.2006 | BARRY SCHWEID

Posted on 08/03/2006 12:08:45 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: ARealMothersSonForever

We agree that Hezbollah is a terrorist organization.

Hezbollah got only 20 percent of the vote. Imagine how influential the Democrats would be if they got 20 percent of the vote.

Now life is a bit more complex, because Lebanon has a parlementary form of government.

The Lebanese government has a continuing obligation to disarm Hezbollah. Arming the Lebanese Army it would permit that task to actually happen.

Lebanon is a flawed state. Patching is actually a pretty good alternative.


261 posted on 08/05/2006 12:40:11 PM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1154525810323&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull


Seems to indicate that not all Arabs care for Hezbollah.


262 posted on 08/05/2006 2:11:44 PM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: donmeaker
Patching is actually a pretty good alternative.

Oh, OK. We will call US taxpayer support for a terrorist organization "patching". When the Dim party comes into power and requires that our young men and women be conscripted for a French "patching" effort do not call me. I am compelled to unequivocally state that I am vehemently opposed to another Marine or US serviceman (or woman) sacrificing their life for the worthless Lebanese experiment that France started.

Every Lebanese civilian is culpable. As is every Syrian and Iranian. If you demand US intervention in this conflict, make d@mn sure that we do not support the people sworn to our destruction. There are many patriotic American citizens that will oppose any form or fashion of supporting Hizb. I am one of them. If this includes military intervention against both of the combatant parties, so be it. KSA threatened us, the United States of America with war. Every single congress "person" has deflected on answering this declaration. The Republican party is spineless, loose, weak, and ineffective.

We have capitulated to the Useless Nations, and are a mere lap-poodle to the French. A German Frau has bigger 'nads than our President. How do you like me now?

263 posted on 08/05/2006 4:55:13 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

I submit that providing support to the government that has to disarm Hezbollah is different from providing support to Hezbollah.

Just as providing support to George Washington is different from providing support to George III.

Hope you get that problem with the pills straightened out.


264 posted on 08/05/2006 5:14:47 PM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: donmeaker
I submit that providing support to the government that has to disarm Hezbollah is different from providing support to Hezbollah.

Alrighty then. Be sure to give them at least 18 years to get there. What the heck, give them 30 years. When one is working in the appeasement world, there is no time limit. Exactly how many more strikes on United States soil are you willing to take? Judging from this statement, you will take 4 or 5 more. How about the government that has to disarm Wahabbi radicals? You may choose to give them more strikes, and it is likely that it will happen. Do not come crying to me when when the unspeakable horrors are carried out on the poor put upon muzzies. The tipping point has been crossed, in case you missed it. You will never see on CNN, nor read in the NYT what happens to terrorist supporters inside our country. Go back to sleep.

265 posted on 08/05/2006 6:20:15 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

What part of helping Lebanon get rid of Hezbollah do you not understand?

When you have an election of 70 percent against Hezbollah, why are you ready to throw the good people away?

In Israel, you can't get 70 percent to vote against Hezbollah! Nor could you in the US! Should we not support the US military because of jerks like Durbin, Kennedy, Kerry and Murtha?

Honestly! what drives you people?


266 posted on 08/05/2006 6:23:19 PM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: donmeaker
When you have an election of 70 percent

Seventy percent of whom? Jew hating Hizb sympathizers, methinks. If the Lebanese had the intestinal fortitude to rid their "blossoming democracy" of Hizb, they would have. Oh, wait. The United States of America must step in to every little French pissant conflict in the world. May the government, and people of Lebanon that brought this upon themselves perish. Life is tough, and even tougher when one is stupid.

267 posted on 08/05/2006 6:29:32 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

70 percent voted against Hezbollah, to get Syria to withdraw.

Hezbollah got 20 percent on the ticket of keeping Syria in Lebanon.

With that kind of majority, Lebanon's elected government invited Hezbollah into the government, gave them a cabinet seat, and tried to convince them to disarm.

It is in response to the successful overtures of the elected Lebanon's government that Hezbollah had to use their weapons. It is their last gasp, their last chance to avoid irrelevence.


268 posted on 08/05/2006 6:35:15 PM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: donmeaker
With that kind of majority, Lebanon's elected government invited Hezbollah into the government, gave them a cabinet seat, and tried to convince them to disarm.

A commendable effort. Yet it did not work out. The key words being "Lebanon's elected government invited a terrorist organization into the government". Screw them all. Unless you advocate dealing with terrorist organizations if they are kind of sort of maybe affiliated with a French protectorate from 1921? If so, please make the plain statement. I advocate the killing and destruction of terrorist organizations. If this make me a bad person, so be it.

269 posted on 08/05/2006 6:47:45 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

The terms were: they would be invited into the government, and they would no longer be a terrorist organization.

You have to make allies, or spend every drop of blood yourself, and let those who did not commit military force reap the benefits.

What was the the name of that Jewish terrorist?

Oh yes, Menachim Begin!


270 posted on 08/05/2006 6:57:32 PM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: neverdem
Yes, take control out of hezbuts hands. Sounds good to me. Go admin.
271 posted on 08/05/2006 7:20:01 PM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: donmeaker
The terms were: they would be invited into the government, and they would no longer be a terrorist organization.

According to whom? Is Hizb now included in the Leb govt? If so, the Leb govt is at war with Israel. None of the USA's business at all. Unless you think Hizb and Iran should jump froggy on the USA. Do you?

Because if you do, we will not send ground troops.

272 posted on 08/05/2006 7:26:43 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Political troglodyte with a partisan axe to grind)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

Actually, Hezbollah would be at war with both Lebanon and Israel.


273 posted on 08/05/2006 7:39:06 PM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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