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South Carolina Praised for Requiring Students to Critically Analyze Evolutionary Theory
Discovery Institute ^ | June 12, 2006 | Staff

Posted on 08/02/2006 9:17:33 AM PDT by JCEccles

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Just when the High Priests of Darwinism think the inquisition has stamped out the last heretic, another one pops up to pose embarrasing questions.
1 posted on 08/02/2006 9:17:34 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: DaveLoneRanger

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2 posted on 08/02/2006 9:19:10 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: PatrickHenry

No rest for the Darwinists and the ACLU thugs that abuse the legal system to protect Darwinist dogma from free and open inquiry. Light keeps creeping into their dark Victorian dungeons.


3 posted on 08/02/2006 9:21:49 AM PDT by JCEccles (Darwinism: perfecting the human species one genocide at a time.)
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To: JCEccles

Heh. In my son's public high school biology class they discussed the problems with the ToE just this year. Can't be everywhere at once to stamp this kind of thing out, I guess.


4 posted on 08/02/2006 9:22:20 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

A real and substantial backlash against Darwinist thuggery is gathering strength among independent and critical-thinking young men and women across this nation. The Internet helps a lot.


5 posted on 08/02/2006 9:25:25 AM PDT by JCEccles (Darwinism: perfecting the human species one genocide at a time.)
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To: metmom; PatrickHenry

BTTT


6 posted on 08/02/2006 9:26:53 AM PDT by JCEccles (Darwinism: perfecting the human species one genocide at a time.)
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To: JCEccles

'Twont matter. These folks have probably attended a Church service once or twice---so this initiative will instantly mean that it is worthy of the Evo-left's scorn on that alone.


7 posted on 08/02/2006 9:28:37 AM PDT by Sam's Army (How to make someone shutup and go away in Corporate-speak: "Just send it to me in an email.")
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To: JCEccles
Another interesting thought.....

It seems like the private Christian schools and the Christian homeschoolers who teach both creation AND evolution, are turning out consistantly better educated students than the public schools. Which makes me wonder how so much great science could have been produced before the ToE was introduced if believing in creation is such a handicap to learning.

8 posted on 08/02/2006 9:29:07 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: JCEccles

> A real and substantial backlash against Darwinist thuggery is gathering strength among independent and critical-thinking young men and women across this nation.

At least one study ahs shown that when college freshmen are confronted with open and honest discussion of the scientific arguements for and against both Creationism and Evolution, more incoming Creationists turn Evolutionist than the other way around.

Critical-thinking is the nemesis of Creationism.


9 posted on 08/02/2006 9:31:48 AM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: Sam's Army
Anything that even HINTS that Darwinist dogma is not holy, perfect, and pure is attacked by the left and by libertarians and by many socially liberal Republicans as well.

Darwinism ceased being science decades ago. It has become a religion that Darwin himself would likely find abhorrent.

10 posted on 08/02/2006 9:32:57 AM PDT by JCEccles (Darwinism: perfecting the human species one genocide at a time.)
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The biology standard approved requires students to be able to, “Summarize ways that scientists use data from a variety of sources to investigate and critically analyze aspects of evolutionary theory.” This falls under the overall biology standard which says that “The student will demonstrate an understanding of biological evolution and the diversity of life.”

“This victory is an important milestone towards improving the quality of science education, by ensuring that students learn the full range of relevant scientific evidence, including the scientific criticisms of evolution,” said Casey Luskin an attorney and public policy analyst with Discovery Institute’s Center for Science & Culture. “South Carolina is the fifth current state to require students to learn about scientific criticisms of evolution and this policy helps remedy the problem that most biology textbooks today largely ignore scientific challenges to Darwinism.”

If they actually teach science, the ID folks are not going to like it one bit as there is no scientific evidence for ID and a tremendous amount of scientific evidence for evolution.

But with the Discovery Institute involved, it looks like another deceitful attempt to sneak religion into science classes, and a particular branch of religion at that.

So, what do you do when some student says ID is a bunch of junk trying, but failing miserably, to reach the level of junk science? Most likely the student would be criticized for bashing religion, just as we see on these threads. But, ID is not religion, right? (Wink, wink.)

Will the standards work both ways? In science classes, all ideas are open to challenge, so the purported global flood should be fair game too. That should be funny, as the only evidence for a global flood is the bible; there is no support for this notion in science. Teach the controversy?

11 posted on 08/02/2006 9:33:20 AM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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When I was in college(very recently) evolution came up in two of my courses, biology and anthropology.

Biology prof: ~"I personally have some serious issues with evolution, you will be taught and tested on the material, not yours or my opinion." This guy was a great prof, I got an A.

Anthropology prof: ~ "I don't care what you believe about evolution, your test answers will reflect the material or you will fail." This prof was a flaming communist, I still got an A.
12 posted on 08/02/2006 9:33:42 AM PDT by IYAAYAS (Live free or die trying)
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> It seems like the private Christian schools and the Christian homeschoolers who teach both creation AND evolution, are turning out consistantly better educated students than the public schools.

A logical explanation for that is that public schools on the whole *suck* at teaching *anything* of value. Ask a public school graduate what the definition of "science" is. What does the "scientific method" entail. What, *exactly*, are the concepts in Darwinian evolution. Like as not, they will be *woefully* ill-informed.


13 posted on 08/02/2006 9:34:15 AM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: JCEccles

Good decision in South Carolina... Unlike the Dover Schoolboard case a couple of years ago when the ACLU convinced Judge Jones to deny any competition to the TOE.


14 posted on 08/02/2006 9:35:20 AM PDT by politicallyincarrect
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Can you provide a link for this "study" that you say favors evolutionism?


15 posted on 08/02/2006 9:38:04 AM PDT by politicallyincarrect
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I say we support your 'at least one study' position to assuage any evolutionist concerns and help perpetuate the myth that 'critical thinking' is actually more dangerous for Creation.

That way the evos won't mount much opposition and won't figure it out till the 'barbarians are at the gate'.

Whoops.


16 posted on 08/02/2006 9:39:27 AM PDT by GourmetDan
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I've always wanted to ask... do you feel you came from an orangutan or a baboon?
17 posted on 08/02/2006 9:41:00 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: orionblamblam

So....

what *exactly* is the definition of science,

what *exactly* does the scientific method entail,

and what *exactly* are the 'concepts in Darwinian evolution'?


18 posted on 08/02/2006 9:42:24 AM PDT by GourmetDan
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To: AmericaUnited
I've always wanted to ask... do you feel you came from an orangutan or a baboon?

If you knew anything about evolution you would know the answer to that.

Denying it won't make it not so.

19 posted on 08/02/2006 9:43:19 AM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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>>If they actually teach science, the ID folks are not going to like it one bit as there is no scientific evidence for ID and a tremendous amount of scientific evidence for evolution.<<

Take your best shot. Please provide one example of what you consider compelling evidence for evolution. Since there is a "tremendous amount..." this shouldn't be a problem for you, should it?



20 posted on 08/02/2006 9:44:20 AM PDT by politicallyincarrect
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