Posted on 07/31/2006 3:05:40 PM PDT by Reagan Man
BRAVO!
There are two version of Globalism one is of the Lord and the other program is the opposition!
This is the seperation of the wheat from the tares each will arive at their chosen destination!
I still feel Bush mission is for good who knows what the elected offical agenda will be!
The trouble is she is right.
Check out some of the responses on this thread. Chills! Spills! Hegelian dialectic! [hoot]
What are the negative effects brought about by imports? No feelings, just facts, if you could?
Let me guess, you don't think we manufacture anything here anymore?
Maybe on your planet. Meanwhile, back on Earth......
Economics 101.
Trade between the US and foreign countries have both positive and negative consequences. A positive effect of trade is the creation of jobs, but trade also destroys jobs. Increases in U.S. exports tend to create jobs in this country, while increases in imports tend to reduce jobs and for good reason. Imports displace goods that otherwise would have been made in the US by domestic workers.
You guessed wrong.
Next.
How much of our economy was manufacturing in the 1980s? How much is manufacturing now? Why has the reduction hurt us? Is our GDP smaller than in the 1980s? Is our household net worth lower?
Not only that but "free trade" agreements enable the displacement of Americans by foreign workers in the domestic workforce. Even if the jobs are maintained, it isn't necessarily citizens who get them. So you see a net reduction in jobs, and further reduction in the number of American citizens employed because of displacement by foreign workers.
That's funny!
but trade also destroys jobs.
Who trades more than the US? Who has a lower unemployment rate than the US? Maybe you can tell me how many jobs each $1 billion in imports destroys?
while increases in imports tend to reduce jobs and for good reason.
We import more than ever. We have more jobs than ever. The evidence doesn't seem to support your position. Maybe you have a source that does?
Well ya think? I'm just shocked, shocked I tell you! Who would have EVER considered the idea that Bush might pursue a globalist agenda.....
Peak manufacturing levels in the US hit its high in 1979 with about 20 million employed in production related businesses. Today there are roughly 15 million American workers engaged in manufaturing jobs. Even though the US has stayed somewhat competitive against low wage countries through innovation, its quite obvious we aren't the manufacturing giant we once were. In the early 1980`s the US became a nation of service workers. 20 yeasr ago GM was the largest employer in the US. Today the largest employer is a service company called, WalMart. Service related jobs businesses have outpaced production manufacturing jobs. Making the US a service oriented country in the 21st century.
Calm down now. Never said the US didn't have the best AND biggest economy in the world. However, the overall trends during the last 20-30 years indicate the USA is no longer the economic force in the world it once was. The dollar has faded, our trade deficit is at an all time high and we are not eduacting our chidlren properly. The rest of the world is catching up to the US. That's why its so critical the Feds apply the brakes to the America's ever expanding globalization efforts. The Feds need to stop signing trade deals with nations that aren't concerned with looking out for America's best interests.
Please clarify, we manufactured more in 1979 than today? Or we employed more in manufacturing in 1979 but we manufactured less?
Even though the US has stayed somewhat competitive against low wage countries through innovation, its quite obvious we aren't the manufacturing giant we once were.
How much in $$$ terms do we need to manufacture to be a giant again?
In the early 1980`s the US became a nation of service workers.
If we only had 20 million in manufacturing in 1979, we were already a nation of service workers. Or are you claiming we used to have 50% of all workers in manufacturing? 50% of GDP from manufacturing?
Service related jobs businesses have outpaced production manufacturing jobs. Making the US a service oriented country in the 21st century.
And yet we employ more people, make more money, increase net worth, manufacture more and increase GDP every year. So why are you complaining?
That's funny! I don't suppose you have any facts to back up your supposed trend? So this trend makes us poor?
The rest of the world is catching up to the US.
If we grow 3.5% a year and the rest of the world grows 4%, is that a bad thing?
The Feds need to stop signing trade deals with nations that aren't concerned with looking out for America's best interests.
You need to get your head out of the zero sum hole you've got it in. You really don't understand how trade works, do you?
Trade benefits both sides of the transaction.
And the Iceman and blacksmith jobs just disappeared. But guess what? New jobs came along - like the refrigerator repairman and the auto mechanic.
The world is changing and we have to change with it. We can't seal ourselves into a 1977 Tupperware bowl and keep the economy just as it was. With every change there are winners and losers.
Globalization is going to happen whether we like it or not, with or without George Bush. It's better to learn to use the changes to our advantage then to just sit and complain about them.
Even though the US has the best and biggest economy in the world today, I'd like to see America remain #1 in that regard. I don't support the globalization of America, and I don't support what Bush41, Clinton and Bush43 have been pushing for the last 17 years. What I don't want to see happen, is for the US to continue advancing globalist policy that allows for unfair trade practices by foreign nations as a weapon of choice to be used against MY country.
And I'm done playing 20 questions with you. If you need more feedback, pick up a book and get informed.
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