Posted on 07/30/2006 10:04:42 PM PDT by GeronL
Not at normal regulated (1/2 psig) city gas pressures.
But will they be able to run these theoretical compressors with 1/2 psig upstream pressure? ...and fill up vehicles all over the neighborhood overnight? And how much electricity will that use? (And how much Nautural Gas will be required to generate it?)
Enquiring minds wanna know!
Wow, this article is an eye-opener. I'm sold. I didn't realize we had a huge supply of NG.
everything has drawbacks, NG has fewer in my opinion than ethonal, methanol, solar, wind and treadmill power schemes
I used to drive a Propane powered Jeep Wagoneer.
It drove OK, but was noticeably down on power compared to a gas engine.
If you ran out gas you had to call a tow-truck, you cannot get a ride to the station and fill a bucket or can with Propane, then pour it into the tank.
For purposes of this discussion I see Propane and Natural Gas as being essentially identical.
I can support the premise of the post, but only with the caveat that NG will work best for Gov. and large companies needs.
It's BEST use is electricity generation, which could transform our economy if it got cheap enough.
It really does have some drawbacks for individual use.
It would obviously start with larger companies and government but there would be a period of years for the system and infrastructure to be put into place.
BTW- ethanol also cuts down on the power
good post. well i for one see the answer in not giving way to any one solution. we should have everything, natural gas, nuclear, bio diesel, bio fuels, gasoline, wind, hydrogen..by a mix an match approach we get the best approach. i dont necessarily believe the oil companies, car companies are bad, we need their skills in changing. integration is the key IMHO.
this is all doable now, we just need someone to speartip it into the right direction. i also think it is a huge tool on the WOT. we keep our prices low and use the oil money we do buy as a tool for change. if we were only importing small percentages of oil (still huge money per annum) and indeed get other democracies to do the same, we could start to dicate to them what we need in place to buy oil, namely democracy. so instead of the islamic , dictator strangelholds, we could enforce change with the best tool of all...money.
i dont think it would take decades either. once we have a direction, it would be easier for the car companies to commit to this direction without shafting themselves. they win, we win..incentives by the government and more importantly some direction (which has started but i think it need more drive and purpose) will help no end also.
Welllll, actually, you can get equal or better power from Ethanol IF the engine is specially built just to run on it.
Watch a blown Alky rail dragster some time!
But the mileage will never equal what you can get from gasoline.
There are catalyst that can concentrate the HC in Ethanol to the same density as oil derived gasoline.
Of course that is not being pursued, it cuts the yield too much, and does not supplant gasoline as the fuel of choice.
100% of Alaskan North Slope oil is kept in America. This has been the case for all but 4 years of the nearly 3 decades of Alaskan oil production. Between 1996-1999 5.5% of North Slope oil was exported to Asian countries. These exports were overwhelmingly supported by the US Congress and by the Clinton Administration to offset an oil glut in California at the time. In June 2000 Alaskan North Slope oil again ceased to be exported, and 100% of Alaskan North Slope production has stayed in America. (Thanks Thackney)
What is NORM?
NORM, or naturally occurring radioactive material, is found almost everywhere. It is found in the air and in soil, and even in radioactive potassium in our own bodies. ...
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NORM encountered in oil and gas exploration, development and production operations originates in subsurface formations, which may contain radioactive materials such as uranium and thorium and their daughter products, radium 226 and radium 228. NORM can be brought to the surface in the formation water that is produced in conjunction with oil and gas. NORM in these produced waters typically consists of the radionuclides, radium 226 and 228. In addition, radon gas, a radium daughter, may be found in produced natural gas.
Interesting. Thanks for posting.
This shows up in one out of two mentions of the hydrogen economy, and it just IS NOT TRUE. "Embrittlement" by hydrogen diffusion only happens at a high enough rate to be a problem at high temperatures. At room temperature (or less, since pipelines are typically underground), the reaction is so slow as to take centuries to cause a problem.
There is a mild steel pipeline in the Ruhr Valley that has been transporting hydrogen for a century now without problems. The ONLY change that will need to be made to NG pipelines to transport hydrogen is to put in bigger pumps.
I'd certainly love to see NG prices come down. Each year it's been skyrocketing during the winter, and I've seen my home heating bills go way up.
Also, one of the reason that electical bills are going up is that many power companies built supplemental NG fueled power plants when NG was cheap and plentiful, but now those plants are extremely expensive to run.
Mark
True. That's why you use fuel cells instead.
"The same applies to ethanol."
Not true. Your information is out of date.
"Methanol is OK if you work on your car three hours for every half hour in operation."
Not true. WHERE do you come up with this stuff???
Given the fact that the last "war" France won was against Greenpeace, they're no longer held hostage to the environmentalist whackos.
Mark
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