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Mel culpa: Gibson sorry after tirade [including "anti-Semitic remarks"]
The Age (AU) ^ | 31JUL06 | Gerard Wright

Posted on 07/30/2006 5:13:24 PM PDT by familyop

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To: xxyyxx
Maybe he is waiting for Abe Foxman any other Jewish leaders to apologize for their constant attacks against his movie.

Maybe Abe Foxman is on to something about Mel Gibson.

41 posted on 07/30/2006 5:45:00 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: irish guard
It is really bad and they always hurt the ones they love the most-mainly me and his wife and children.I pray for Mel-my son and all who are walking that road because I know that you can win.
42 posted on 07/30/2006 5:46:09 PM PDT by fatima
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To: sinkspur
He apologized for his statements to the police. He did not specifically apologize for his statements about Jews.

Why would he. If you recall, embedded in his dads belief system is that fact that, along with causing the worlds wars, Jews are responsible, along with the Masons, for the takeover of the Vatican in the 1960s. If I'm not mistaken Hutton has stated that all Popes since that time are agents of the devil. Mel has acknowledged his fathers role in shaping his faith, specifics unknown. Drunk driving, abusing the police are one thing. His statements about Jews, I wouldn't presume he thinks apologies are necessary.

43 posted on 07/30/2006 5:46:40 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: ozoneliar

"Symptoms of the disease include believing oneself to be above the law, and superior to mere peons."

Just write the first thoughts that come to your mind. He was drunk, and being drunk makes fools of us all.


44 posted on 07/30/2006 5:46:48 PM PDT by jwh_Denver ("Try thinking if just for you own sake" George Harrison)
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To: irish guard
I hesitate to post here because it is a touchy subject. It seems many either hate him or put him on a pedestal and believe he can do no wrong. People say things when they are drunk that they don't mean or believe. Did he or didn't he? I have no idea but folks don't let the media try to play Christians and Jews against each other.
Mel Gibson said he was sorry for his behavior. As far as I'm concerned he doesn't need to go into juicy details. He just needs to stay sober and do what he does best. Make movies. Time will tell if he is sincere. JMO
45 posted on 07/30/2006 5:46:48 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Hacksaw

My thoughts also


46 posted on 07/30/2006 5:47:02 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: GinaLolaB
I just think he spouted off his big mouth because he was emotionally upset about the war. The war is very upsetting to many people.

"The dog ate my homework" would be more believeable.

47 posted on 07/30/2006 5:47:17 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: Screamname
I read the statement today by the ADL that pretty much said Gibson was a bigot

Kettle meet pot ,Pot meet kettle

48 posted on 07/30/2006 5:47:52 PM PDT by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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To: familyop
I don't know exactly what Gibson said but I have not seen these quotes before from any other sources.
That's the problem with posting from a source like the Age, they're a tabloid and untrustworthy in my opinion.
49 posted on 07/30/2006 5:48:05 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: CindyDawg; sinkspur
Mel Gibson said he was sorry for his behavior. As far as I'm concerned he doesn't need to go into juicy details.

I'm ask sinkspur about this one.

From a Jewish perspective, yes, the "juicy details" would be necessary. The apology would have to be specific, specifically acknowledging the harm done. And remedying it, which in this instance would be done verbally, through acknowledgment of his error. Is that really different than what would be expected of a Christian.

50 posted on 07/30/2006 5:50:07 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: livius
"...but like any artist, he was simply doing what he did..."

Actually, these filmic just don't require the sort of intellectual stamina demanded of us by the greats.

Homer, Dante, Shakespeare, Milton, Keats, Eliot were intellectually colossal. Understanding them (crucial to enjoying them -in my judgment) requires enormous mental discipline and years of careful study.

As you might gather, I'm not keep on these filmic (thought admittedly young) arts and media. I'm patient, but skeptical.

Second, with collaborative dramatic arts, are you listening to writer or director or actor? In my judgment (again) this makes them second rate. I will never, ever view Gibson's film the way I view the last 5 lines of Paradise Lost, the best 5 lines in all artwork and in all Christendom.
51 posted on 07/30/2006 5:50:40 PM PDT by Plymouth Sentinel (Sooner Rather Than Later)
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To: GinaLolaB
"I think he was upset because of the wars in Lebanon/Iraq."

Maybe the LEO was wearing a badge like this:


52 posted on 07/30/2006 5:50:42 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: sinkspur
So his anti-semitism is understandable, right? Why not blame Jews for starting all wars, right?

You have a bad habit of trying to put your own words into other people's mouths. You've been doing it all over the Gibson threads. Try being a bit more honest and less of a drip.

53 posted on 07/30/2006 5:50:46 PM PDT by Hacksaw (Deport illegals the same way they came here - one at a time.)
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To: JeanS

"I don't know exactly what Gibson said but I have not seen these quotes before from any other sources." - Hint, why don't you just do a search on FR for any other stories regarding Mel.


54 posted on 07/30/2006 5:50:55 PM PDT by Panerai
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To: Screamname

"I think his statements while drunk were more of him being self destructive than anti-semitic. I mean what is the worst possible thing he could say to destroy his career?"

Exactly my thoughts.


55 posted on 07/30/2006 5:51:01 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: JeanS
I don't know exactly what Gibson said but I have not seen these quotes before from any other sources. That's the problem with posting from a source like the Age, they're a tabloid and untrustworthy in my opinion.

A quick google will find you several hundred source with the same quotes. The police report is available on the web, links on some of the other threads. I don't think there's much doubt as to his actions. He doesn't appear to be denying any of the very specific accusations, and he's had two days to do that.

56 posted on 07/30/2006 5:51:46 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: familyop
partially released on the entertainment news website TMZ.com, and confirmed by an industry reporter and The Washington Post

Are we all to believe these excellent sources? LOL.

Mel was drunk and said some stuff. We don't know what. Yet FR will continue to debate the topic ad nauseum. Ick.

57 posted on 07/30/2006 5:52:08 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Sola Veritas

For people who are not alcoholics or have not studied the disease in depth, let me make one FACT perfectly clear.

Alcohol is NOT a truth serum. Quite the opposite. Alcohol is a LIAR serum. It is an insidious poisen on the nervous system that creats hallucinations and all sorts of fantasies.

I don't believe for a second that he was "speaking his real thoughts" while at a .12 bac.


58 posted on 07/30/2006 5:53:17 PM PDT by Integrityrocks
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To: ozoneliar
"It seems to be that Mel has sucummbed to the fabled disease known as Celebrititis. Symptoms of the disease include believing oneself to be above the law, and superior to mere peons."

That's my take on the incident. In light of that, his cracks about Jews are par for the course.

59 posted on 07/30/2006 5:53:17 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: what's up
"Mel was drunk and said some stuff. We don't know what." WOW, amazing how some people chose to bury their head in the sand sometimes.
60 posted on 07/30/2006 5:57:01 PM PDT by Panerai
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