Posted on 07/28/2006 9:31:35 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
the horrors that were visited on the working class are unknown to us today, all the while the "captains of industry" were amassing fortunes that staggers the imaginations and plagues us still in the form of liberal trust/endowments.
We're better off than we were in the 1890's not because of government regulation, but because of greatly increased wealth. If all labor regulations were abolished today, somebody trying to open a sweatshop with child labor in the US would have few takers, because we have so many better opportunities.
That's good to know, but not what I was getting at. You asked what determined the value, and I said the market does. A doctor is "worth" more than a toaster maker.
yes I would.
With this statement, you have in effect determined that you do not wish to enter into an employment contract with a particular individual because he/she brings little or no economic value into your business.
But by doing so, you have effective violated the Golden Rule by denying him the potential for earning a living. You have put your needs above the needs of a potential worker.
My point is, all men are NOT created equal and neither are all jobs. You would not even consider running a business where you hired every individual who walked in at the same pay rate. Forcing you to pay an arbitrary wage is no more sensible than forcing you to hire every applicant because "all workers are entitled to make a living."
Well, at least you're honest. Now how are you going to make him hire employees in the first place (or not fire them), if their productivity is less than your "living wage"?
The inflation rate where I live has gone up 25% in the last 5 years. And if you believe government reports on inflation, I have a bridge to sell you.
I think you made a wrong turn on your way to DU.
The vast majority of jobs pay more than the minimum wage. Why do you think this is?
With this statement, you have in effect determined that you do not wish to enter into an employment contract with a particular individual because he/she brings little or no economic value into your business.
Again I am not advocating communism - everyone must be hired for an equal wage.
But by doing so, you have effective violated the Golden Rule by denying him the potential for earning a living. You have put your needs above the needs of a potential worker.
My response to the man who is of no use to my company is not to hire him but I might have a charitable obligation towards him, if he is in need. When I speak of an employee I speak of one who's labor is essitential to the profit production of the business. The person you speak of is something else all together.
My point is, all men are NOT created equal Right, but they are of equal value
and neither are all jobs. Agreed, see above.
Forcing you to pay an arbitrary wage is no more sensible than forcing you to hire every applicant because "all workers are entitled to make a living." Forcing me to pay a living wage to all employees is what sepates us from slave holding states.
And might I add, if I and people like me belong at DU, then there will not be a single republican in office in six years.
I just hate when people tell me I need to read so and so, but with a grimace I suggest you look at what labor conditions were like less than 100 years ago right here.....that is not cynicism that is cold hard history... because wealthy people could they did...and then went and taught Sunday School.,p. On what will you base that men won't when we have the very clear record that they have...
The person of which I speak is the person who would be out looking for a minimum wage job. You don't want him for your business. Who does? He's going to find employement at the bottom of the barrel.
You call him, "something else all together", I call him a free man with all the opportunities afforded to any of us who live in this great country. No one should should ever be satisfied with being the lowest common denominator, but it doesn't change the fact that someone will be. No one "owes" them a living.
too bad it's the democrats' agenda.
Non sequitor. The question is why almost all jobs pay more than the legally required minimum.
and unions
Most employees aren't in a union.
and some competition for some labor
Ah, third time's the charm.
true they are not but it was the work of unions that set for all of us a standard and expectations...if not for them you would still be doing the books in the very cold, with a stub of a candle, with only Christmas day off, and little Tim would not be cover by any insurance plan
competion - glad to get one right.
Now your turn...Why do the Nike workers in china only get $.13 per day....?
but also the men I speak of will barely have bread because of the others greed
It sounds as if you feel that only the greedy and the cut-throat are capable of being an employer. Every scenario you have presented supposes that the man offering employement is bad, and the man seeking a job is good.
The presence of good men in the business world produces its own type of market force. Your wage offer will put you in competition with other businesses who seek high quality workers.
You stated that you would pay a living wage. Great. I hope you would be able to find employees worth your cost and I hope your conscience doesn't haunt you for turning men away from your high paying job offers.
Mandatory Cost of living increase over last years .11/day?
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