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UN withdraw observers from Israeli-Lebanon border (unarmed'peacekeepers'with cellPhones ?)
IrelandOnLine ^ | 28/07/2006

Posted on 07/28/2006 6:44:57 AM PDT by IrishMike

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To: IrishMike

Isn't this about 2 weeks late in coming?


21 posted on 07/28/2006 7:08:34 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: IrishMike
From the e-mail of the Canadian who was killed, it's clear that they were there only to keep score of who was violating various accords such as the Geneva Convention. I'm reminded of a boxing match, where the referee allows the fighting for a set period of time, then the round is ended and the opponents retreat to their corners to catch their breath, rest, and get doctored up so they can go another round. When there is no knock-out, the winner is declared by a panel of judges. On the other hand, if an opponent seriously violates certain rules, he can be disqualified. That's what the UN wants to do, disqualify the opponent, much as they did Saddam Hussein in the nineties. The kept passing resolutions of "disqualification" and Hussein kept violating them. They couldn't enforce their declaration of the "winners".

War is not played in accordance with such civilized rules. In war, when you lose, the world is much better off if you're dead so that you can't keep returning to do it again.

22 posted on 07/28/2006 7:09:06 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (A member of the Appalachian-American minority -- and proud of it!)
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To: IrishMike

So what's the point of having them if they're only present when everything's A-OK?


23 posted on 07/28/2006 7:09:36 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: highlander_UW

...Isn't this about 2 weeks late in coming?


The UN Peacekeepers didn't do $hit for 18 years & 2 weeks.


24 posted on 07/28/2006 7:11:04 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: ctdonath2

There is the right way and the UN way.


25 posted on 07/28/2006 7:12:25 AM PDT by jwh_Denver (Arabs, the ultimate dysfunctional robots.)
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To: avital2
kofi should be removed for this lack of action

Hopefully, "Koffeee's " rush to condemnation in shouting the Israel deliberately [ oh, excuse me "apparent" deliberate" - killing of these men that he left there in harm's way, will become a "hoisted by is own petard" incident///.......

(You gotta love his trying to squirm outta accusing Israel with deliberately targeting the post with his 'correction' that to say he said "deliberately" was taken out of context - that he said only "apparent" deliberate. That's supposed to fool who? "apparent" = "clearly seen or understood". I'd say Kofffeee's accusation was a "clearly-apparent accusation"

It is way past time for this cancerous growth to be gone

26 posted on 07/28/2006 7:12:30 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: IrishMike

Indeed...the second I hit post I knew I'd see a response :)


27 posted on 07/28/2006 7:13:52 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: All

Peacekeepers' war
http://www.theage.com.au/news/in-depth/peacekeepers-war/2006/07/28/1153816381168.html

ON WEDNESDAY, as an international summit in Rome discussed putting a United Nations force into Lebanon, the killing of four peacekeepers by an Israeli bomb reminded the world of something it might have forgotten: the UN is in Lebanon already.

Peacekeepers arrived in 1978, supposedly for a few months, and have stayed so long some soldiers have married local women. Now numbering 2000 troops, including Chinese, Irish, Ghanaians and French, they are supposed to enforce UN resolutions by helping Lebanon's army take control of southern Lebanon and disarm the militant Shiite group Hezbollah.

They have done no such thing. Instead, they have been scorned by Israel and shelled by Hezbollah. Under their watch, Hezbollah built up its rocket stores and command posts, enabling it to fire rockets at will into Israel in the past few weeks and before. More than 250 peacekeepers have died since 1978, the greatest casualty count in the history of UN peacekeeping. The UN admits the mission has been a disaster.

But it isn't fair to blame the peacekeepers. Rather, their failure reflects confusion over the goals of their mission, divisions on the UN Security Council over how to reinforce its own resolutions and the declining authority of the world body itself.

To American author David Rieff, who has written widely on peacekeeping, the morass of Lebanon exposes the malaise of the world order. "You have the UN marginalised as never before and at the same time being asked to decide on questions of war and great power," he says. "It comes up against the hard political reality — the international system is bust."

This week Rome fiddled while Lebanon burnt. The peace conference in the Italian capital agreed to the formation of a peace-keeping force under a UN mandate but little else. No demand for a ceasefire, no details of which countries might contribute troops, not even a date for when talks will resume — probably at the UN next week.

On one side, the UN, France, Germany and a range of Arab countries pushed for an immediate ceasefire. On the other, the US and Britain backed Israel's vow not to stop until it had gravely weakened Hezbollah. Do the groupings sound familiar? Think of March 2003, just before the Iraq war. The comparison isn't exact, yet the word "Iraq" hovered over Wednesday's failed meeting.


28 posted on 07/28/2006 7:19:29 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: IrishMike
Earlier, Israel’s UN ambassador has ruled out major UN involvement in any potential international force in Lebanon, saying more professional and better-trained troops were needed for such a volatile situation.

Ouch! That's gonna leave a mark. Seems like the UN jobs program has been unmasked.

29 posted on 07/28/2006 7:19:33 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Occupation does not cause terrorism; terrorism causes occupation. (A. Dershowitz))
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To: Piranha
collaborated with Hezbollah for the past several years

That's a bingo for me.

The UN post was perched high on hill overlooking the Israeli border ON THE HESSIE SIDE- to keep any eye on the Israelis??? rather than the Hezzies...

So they lived among the Hezzies for 28 years = are we supposed to think the Hessies didn't 'integrate' them, that they just ignored them? That tower on the hill - what a perfect spotting post - for the benefit of the Hezzies. Is this why Kofffeee wouldn't get these men out of harms way?

30 posted on 07/28/2006 7:20:24 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Typically they are weapons a person might carry.

A definition can be found here.

http://www.smallarmsnet.org/definition.htm

Handguns, rifles, even light machine guns are small arms.

Light weapons include heavy machine guns, rpgs, grenade launchers, small mortars, and anti-aircraft missiles.

31 posted on 07/28/2006 7:36:24 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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32 posted on 07/28/2006 8:29:43 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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To: HeadOn

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Single_Action_Army_handgun


33 posted on 07/28/2006 9:04:13 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: rightwingcrazy

Great! Thanks.


34 posted on 07/28/2006 11:30:31 AM PDT by HeadOn (Life is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.)
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