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The reality of being a teen mum [14 year old UK girls get pregnant on purpose to collect welfare]
bbc.co.uk ^ | 27 July 2006 | Sue Mitchell

Posted on 07/27/2006 7:23:24 AM PDT by grundle

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To: grundle

Isn't socialism great?.... Slavery by Giverment...


41 posted on 07/27/2006 8:17:36 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: PLK

" those from divorced and/or single-parent homes...these kids litter the social landscape"

Uh, my marriage ended in divorce. My son grew up to be a corporate tax accountant.

Hamblin could learn a lot from Bill Cosby.


43 posted on 07/27/2006 8:22:26 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: grundle
"Education is the key to it," she says. "If we can get them through their GCSEs and help them finish their schooling we can give them and their children far better lives."

Sounds like they've learned the government's lessons rather well (rather than what the government says they are trying to teach)

44 posted on 07/27/2006 8:24:22 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Doogle

I can't believe these useless parents. What moron would allow a 14 year old to date a 17 year old?


46 posted on 07/27/2006 8:28:49 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Nearly 1% of illegals are in prison for felonies. Less than 1/10 of 1% of the legal population is.)
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To: tvguru
parents are forbidden from taking out massive life insurance policies on very young children

I didn't know that. What's the limit?

My children are adults.

47 posted on 07/27/2006 8:31:31 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Baynative

The Bell Curve proved that, much to the chagrin of pro-lifers.


48 posted on 07/27/2006 8:32:09 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: Graybeard58

For instance to 4 its like 15000, and for 4-14.5 its like 25000 or 1/4 your own policy whichever is higher. (At least in my state)...


49 posted on 07/27/2006 8:41:21 AM PDT by tvguru
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To: grundle
"Olivia has no regrets about having her daughter Ayeasha at 15. "She's the best thing that ever happened to me," she says. "If I had to do the same again I would. I don't have contact with Ayeasha's Dad but I have help from my parents and there's nothing else I wanted to do with my life."

Ayeasha!?! Geez, you've got to be kidding me. Dad not in the picture and then giving your kid such an asanine name. She should really have asked her counterparts in the U.S. how that combination (no dad & stupid name) just breeds success.
50 posted on 07/27/2006 8:43:23 AM PDT by ut1992 (Army Brat)
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To: Politicalmom
What moron would allow a 14 year old to date a 17 year old?

probably her mother was 16 when she gave birth to her now 16 year old, making her a 30 year old grandmother Stupidity has no age limits

Doogle

51 posted on 07/27/2006 8:49:16 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF...8th TFW...Ubon Thailand...408thMMS..."69"...Night Line Delivery...AMMO!!)
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To: Doogle

Stupidity...as I just proved...16+14....DOH!!


52 posted on 07/27/2006 8:51:27 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF...8th TFW...Ubon Thailand...408thMMS..."69"...Night Line Delivery...AMMO!!)
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To: grundle

Am I missing something? The state is horrified that girls are opting to be housewives rather than doing their patriotic duty and be workers for the state in minimum-wage jobs.

This might be the start of the collapse of the great fraud.

That being that if a couple both work, they can have twice as much money for themselves; except that then taxes are raised so high that one of them ends up working for nothing.

So the state is how aghast that girls would choose motherhood and welfare over good, honest labor. But if they stop paying them welfare, then they are no longer beholden to the state, and the state has less control over their lives.

This could plunge all of Britain into anarchy!


53 posted on 07/27/2006 8:55:31 AM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: grundle

What about the fathers!


54 posted on 07/27/2006 9:44:32 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: gcruse
My son grew up to be a corporate tax accountant.

Of course there are exceptions. I was speaking in a statistical sense. Congrats on raising a fine son.

55 posted on 07/27/2006 11:17:59 AM PDT by PLK
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To: Popocatapetl
The state is horrified that girls are opting to be housewives

A housewife, by definition, is married. That's where the "wife" part comes from.

You see anyone getting married here? Nope, neither do I. Just sluts and "players" (= sperm donors) producing the next generation of sluts and players.

And destroying civilization in the process.

56 posted on 07/27/2006 11:23:10 AM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Popocatapetl
The state is horrified that girls are opting to be housewives

Funny. But to be a "housewife," don't you have to be a wife, as well? These are simply children having children. There is no "housewife" about it, as much as these kids want to delude themselves. It's like homos wanting to be married, they will never be husband and wife, no matter how much the gay lobby works to normalize their perverse sexual behavior. Won't happen, ever, no matter WHAT laws are passed. Society, as a whole, will never accept it.

57 posted on 07/27/2006 11:24:24 AM PDT by PLK
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So what percentage of Americans are bastards? Though that isn't the optimal life for a kid, a goodly percentage of our population weren't raised in a healthy, whole family, and yet haven't turned out to be drug-crazed serial killing rapists.

Sure, a lot were messed up. But lots of kids from healthy families are messed up, too.

I see it as a balance between two "evils of the state". One is the welfare trap, and the other is trying to coerce labor for the state, for nothing, out of women who just want to raise a family. Which is worse? Keeping people dependent on the government, or worshipping the false god "productivity"?


58 posted on 07/27/2006 3:04:35 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: yellowdoghunter

Work requirements vary state to state. Florida did put a limit on welfare cash assistance increases after a certain number of children who are wholly supported by the state. No limit on foodstamps.


59 posted on 07/28/2006 4:39:49 PM PDT by D1X1E
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To: Popocatapetl
Sure, a lot were messed up. But lots of kids from healthy families are messed up, too.

Statistically, there is nothing equivalent about this. It is well documented that children raised in two-parent, intact families grow up to be functional members of society, versus a drain on tax payers and a burden on the social welfare system.

Which is worse? Keeping people dependent on the government, or worshipping the false god "productivity"?

False god? Whatever. Productive citizens are necessary to fund the welfare state, without them, the false god of "welfare" and the nanny state cannot exist. So, which one is more "holy?"

60 posted on 07/30/2006 3:29:17 PM PDT by PLK
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