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More Americans Think WMDs Were in Iraq
CNS News.com ^ | July 25, 2006 | Monisha Bansal

Posted on 07/25/2006 4:36:59 AM PDT by WmShirerAdmirer

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To: WmShirerAdmirer
Here's more. "Peach's posting made me curious and I found this article in my investigation:

"Article published February 4, 2006, Toledo Blade

Saddam's WMD

LAST week a man who had been deputy chief of Saddam Hussein's air force claimed Iraq moved weapons of mass destruction into Syria before the war began.

Special Republican Guard brigades loaded yellow barrels with the skull and crossbones sign on each barrel onto two airliners from which the seats had been removed, Georges Sada said. There were 56 flights in all.

"Saddam realized this time the Americans are coming," Mr. Sada told the New York Sun, one of a handful of news organizations that took note of what he had to say.

There are grounds for skepticism. Mr. Sada was deputy chief of the Iraqi air force during the first Gulf War, not the more recent one, and his account of the movement of WMD to Syria is secondhand. Mr. Sada said he was told of the WMD transfer by the pilots of the two airliners, who approached him after Saddam was captured.

But Mr. Sada's is only the most recent of a series of accounts by people in a position to speak with authority who say (some of) Saddam's chemical and biological weapons wound up in Syria.

●Last month Moshe Yaalon, who was Israel's top general at the time, said Iraq transported WMD to Syria six weeks before Operation Iraqi Freedom began.

●Last March, John A. Shaw, a former U.S. deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security, said Russian Spetsnaz units moved WMD to Syria and Lebanon's Bekaa Valley.

"While in Iraq I received information from several sources naming the exact Russian units, what they took, and where they took both WMD materials and conventional explosives," Mr. Shaw told NewsMax reporter Charles Smith.

●Retired Marine Lt. Gen. Michael DeLong was deputy commander of Central Command during Operation Iraqi Freedom. In September, 2004, he told WABC radio that "I do know for a fact that some of those weapons went into Syria, Lebanon, and Iran."

●In January, 2004, David Kay, the first head of the Iraq Survey Group, which conducted the search for Saddam's WMD, told a British newspaper there was evidence unspecified materials had been moved to Syria from Iraq shortly before the war.

"We know from some of the interrogations of former Iraqi officials that a lot of material went to Syria before the war, including some components of Saddam's WMD program," Mr. Kay told the Sunday Telegraph.

●Also that month, Nizar Nayuf, a Syrian journalist who defected to an undisclosed European country, told a Dutch newspaper he knew of three sites where Iraq's WMD were being kept. They were the town of al Baida near the city of Hama in northern Syria, the Syrian air force base near the village of Tal Snan, and the city of Sjinsar on the border with Lebanon.

●In an addendum to his final report last April, Charles Duelfer, who succeeded David Kay as head of the Iraq Survey Group, said he couldn't rule out a transfer of WMD from Iraq to Syria.

"There was evidence of a discussion of possible WMD collaboration initiated by a Syrian security officer, and ISG received information about movement of material out of Iraq, including the possibility that WMD was involved. In the judgment of the working group, these reports were sufficiently credible to merit further investigation," Mr. Duelfer said.

●In a briefing for reporters in October, 2003, retired Air Force Lt. Gen. James Clapper, Jr., who was head of the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency when the Iraq war began, said satellite imagery showed a heavy flow of traffic from Iraq into Syria just before the American invasion.

"I think the people below Saddam Hussein and his sons' level saw what was coming and decided the best thing to do was to destroy and disperse," General Clapper said.

You haven't heard much about these reports, because they contradict the theory that Saddam either had no WMD, or destroyed them well before the Iraq war began. The captured files of the Iraqi intelligence service, still mostly untranslated, could shed light on what did happen to Saddam's WMD.

John Loftus, a former Justice Department prosecutor, said a civilian contractor who has been among those examining the Mukhabarat files has found audiotapes of meetings in Saddam's office where WMD were discussed. The contractor, a former military intelligence analyst, will make the tapes public Feb. 17 at a conference sponsored by Intelligence Summit, a private group that Mr. Loftus heads.

Mr. Loftus wouldn't disclose the identity of the contractor in advance of the conference, but said his tapes have been verified by the National Security Agency. "This isn't a smoking gun. It's a smoking cannon," he said.

Those who have bet their political futures that Saddam had no WMD may be starting to sweat." Toledo Blade

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?Date=20060204&Category=COLUMNIST14&ArtNo=602040352&SectionCat=COLUMNIST&Template=printart

Guess this information "is" filtering down and sinking into the Americans intelligence.

41 posted on 07/25/2006 7:51:10 AM PDT by WmShirerAdmirer
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Syria WMD Programs Locations 36°02'02"N 37°21'03"E Open sources report that there are at least three Syrian facilities currently engaged in producing Chemical Weapons, located near Damascus, Hama, and Safira village (in the Aleppo area).

A senior Syrian journalist reports Iraq's WMD located in three Syrian sites

For complete satelite pictures and maps of Where in Syria, Saddam's WMD are located go to:

http://www.2la.org/syria/iraq-wmd.php

AND

http://www.2la.org/syria/wmd.html

A senior Syrian journalist reports Iraq WMD located in three Syrian sites

06 January, 2004

AFP

Nizar Nayuf (Nayyouf-Nayyuf), a Syrian journalist who recently defected from Syria to Western Europe and is known for bravely challenging the Syrian regime, said in a letter Monday, January 5, to Dutch newspaper “De Telegraaf,” that he knows the three sites where Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) are kept. The storage places are: -2- The village of Tal Snan, north of the town of Salamija, where there is a big Syrian air force camp. Vital parts of Iraq's WMD are stored there.

-3-. The city of Sjinsjar on the Syrian border with the Lebanon, south of Homs city.

Nayouf writes that the transfer of Iraqi WMD to Syria was organized by the commanders of Saddam Hussein's Special Republican Guard, including General Shalish, with the help of Assif Shoakat , Bashar Assad's cousin. Shoakat is the CEO of Bhaha, an import/export company owned by the Assad family.

In February 2003, a month before America's invasion in Iraq, very few are aware about the efforts to bring the Weapons of Mass Destruction from Iraq to Syria, and the personal involvement of Bashar Assad and his family in the operation.

Nayouf, who has won prizes for journalistic integrity, says he wrote his letter because he has terminal cancer. Click here for Satellite Images of the Syrian-Iraq's WMD Locations

Ad: Hate your job? Take the Tickle.com Free Career Test to discover your ideal career. First Message from the Syrian source to Nizar Nayouf

First messages from a Syrian Source, WMD Location

"Dear Nizar.

We received confirmations that the Iraqi weapons, which were moved to Syria by the help of General Zoul-Himla Chalich are now hidden in three places inside Syria:

First place: a tunnel dug in the mountain close to the Al-Baïdah village, which is roughly two kilometers from Misyaf village. This place is under the 489 Safety cipher Documents' office control .

Second place: the factory of the Air Armed Forces in the village of Tal Sinan, between the town of Hama and Salamiyyah. This factory is under the Air Force control.

Third place: the location of Shinsar, 40 kilometers south of Homs, two kilometers east of the Homs - Damascus road. There are underground tunnels there, controlled by Brigade 661 of the armed air Forces. It is a Brigade of air Patrol. The tunnels are several tens of meters deep.

The weapons were transported in large wooden cases and barrels, under the supervision of the General Zoul-Himla Chalich and the son of his brother Assef, who works at Al-Bachaer company.

The company is owned by the Assad family and has offices in Beirut, Damascus and Baghdad.

This company also undertook the illegal Iraqi oil importation in Syria, and supplied weapons to Saddam. I will try to send you all the new information as i get .

Take care and be safe."

Second Message to Nizar Nayuf

Second messages from a Syrian Source, WMD Location

"Dear Nizar.

I have sent you another chart of the positions which tells where the weapons which were sent from Iraq into Syria, are hidden. Because the preceding chart that I sent you earlier is not clear.

Until now, the authorities in Syria did not worry of what was being published by the Dutch television news about this subject.

New information: The weapons were evacuated by the means of ambulances. Mohammed Mansoura also took part in the operation.

There are other serious, detailed pieces of information concerning the money of Saddam being moved into Syria and into Lebanon and those who took part in moving it - Syrians and Lebanese.Also there are more details about the assassination of the General Moustapha Tajer which took place last summer.

Take care of yourself.

Damascus, January 7, 2004."

AND this is where the descriptions below are located:

http://www.2la.org/syria/wmd.html

Syria WMD Programs Locations

36°02'02"N 37°21'03"E

Open sources report that there are at least three Syrian facilities currently engaged in producing Chemical Weapons, located near Damascus, Hama, and Safira village (in the Aleppo area).

A senior Syrian journalist reports Iraq's WMD located in three Syrian sites

Check the translation of this letter from Arabic to English .Read article

copy of the original letter sent out from syria.

The Following information were taken from GlobalSecurity.org

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Overview of the Middle East with Syria in the center Al Safir SCUD Base and Weapons Depot, Syria

Tactical Pilotage Chart with NIMA CIB imagery overlay showing the general location of the Al Safir SCUD base Tactical Pilotage Chart with NIMA CIB imagery overlay showing Al Safir

Russian 1:200,00 Map of the Al Safir chemical weapons plant and storage area as of 1980

The CW plant and storage area in the western canyon are visible. The munitions storage area would not be detected until 1987. Work on the underground SCUD base would not be visible until 1995. Completion of the Tunnel complex and the SCUD support base was detected in the July 2002 Digital Globe image

Russian 1:50,000 Map of the Al Safir Scud base as of 1987 Syrian 1:50,000 Map as of 1994. The omission of the facility from the Syrian government's map is a sure indicator that the facility is of military nature

Digital Globe image taken on 30 July 2002 of the Al Safir CW plant and SCUD base. Al Safir is protected by an SA-2 SAM battery

Overview of the probable SCUD support base and underground facility. A munitions storage area lies to the right

Close-up of the munitions storage area. Additional storage bunkers have been added between 1987 and 1995 An Russian-build SA-2 surface-to-air-missile site, defending the storage area and underground facility

Close-up of the SA-2 SAM site with Guideline missiles on launchers, Fan Song Radar, and Control Vans. Cable are visible running from the command van to the launchers Overview of the Al Safir chemical weapons plant. Expansion took place between 1987 and 1995

This high-voltage sub-station is an indicator of the presence of activity requiring a large volume of electricity. A normal warehouse complex would not require this much energy

These forced-air cooling towers also indicate the presence of an industrial process requiring the disposal of waste heat. Chemical processes for nerve agents produce highly unstable intermediates that react explosively with water. Steam-heating and water cooling must be replaced with special heat-exchange fluids and heating oils that require the use of cooling towers rather than steam vents

The co-location of munitions storage igloos within the security perimeter of the processing facility is an additional indicator of the Chemical weapons nature of this plant

The lower storage igloos were added sometime between 1995 and 2002

The munitions storage area on the right was built sometime between 1980 and 1987. The buildings on the left are probably associated with SCUD missiles deployed underground and were built after 1995.

These storage igloos are located at a separate facility, which was built between 1980 and 1987

Between 1995 and 2002 an Underground Facility (UGF) was built as well as above-ground support facilities, possibly to house SCUD-D missiles Syria reportedly acquired in 19XX.

These buildings were built after 1995 and are probably associated with SCUD missiles housed underground. The large building measures 30 x 130 meters

A probable command and control facility, located near the tunnel entrances to an underground facility where the Weapons of Mass Destruction are hidden.

The Tunnel entrances are protected by the box canyon walls, from direct attack from precision-guided munitions. Each of the three tunnel portals is more than wide enough to accommodate the Soviet-build MAZ-543 transporter for the SCUD missile

The above information were taken from GlobalSecurity.org copyright 2LA.org

Credit: DigitalGlobe . Copyright (c) DigitalGlobe. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Contact DigitalGlobe for media permission or purchase at 1 (800) 496-1225 or info@digitalglobe.com . DigitalGlobe is not affiliated with 2LA.org.

Syria WMD Programs Locations 36°02'02"N 37°21'03"E Open sources report that there are at least three Syrian facilities currently engaged in producing Chemical Weapons, located near Damascus, Hama, and Safira village (in the Aleppo area). A senior Syrian journalist reports Iraq's WMD located in three Syrian sites

42 posted on 07/25/2006 8:14:01 AM PDT by WmShirerAdmirer
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To: LoudRepublicangirl

This courageous young woman should present herself to her Congressmen/women if any of them are doubting Democrats, and dare them to deny and harp on no WMD in Iraq.


43 posted on 07/25/2006 8:17:49 AM PDT by WmShirerAdmirer
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To: Made in USA

Sounds like the MSM needs to get out their reminders to the public.


44 posted on 07/25/2006 8:18:44 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer
Gee, think it might have something to do with the WMDs that we found in Iraq?

I swear, the stupidity of the MSM just stuns me sometimes.

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain (with the WMDs) pay attention to US !

Oh and always remember  Bush Lied !

It pleases me greatly to discover that the Public is seeing through the lies.

Cheers,

knewshound

Latest Column  The Last Normal Day 22 Aug 2006
45 posted on 07/25/2006 8:35:18 AM PDT by knews_hound (Driving Liberals nuts since 1975 !)
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To: ravingnutter

Good information in your post.


46 posted on 07/25/2006 9:03:26 AM PDT by WmShirerAdmirer
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

This courageous young woman should present herself to her Congressmen/women if any of them are doubting Democrats, and dare them to deny and harp on no WMD in Iraq.



I asked her why she wasn't going public with this information. She said that she didn't want all the media attention like Jessica Lynch got. She wishes she could have stayed in the Army but now she has a lot of health issues to deal with.


47 posted on 07/25/2006 10:19:02 AM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: lawdude

I guess you've never seen a Liberal morph. It's not like killing a vampire with all the spitting and thrashing around. It's more of a subtle change over time. It can and does happen!


48 posted on 07/25/2006 11:45:42 AM PDT by wolfcreek (You can spit in our tacos and you can rape our dogs but, you can't take away our freedom!)
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To: Made in USA

LIbs are utterly incredulous, and simply cannot believe that "Bush Lied!!(tm)", has turned out to be leftist lie...

Try this posting from another board, just 10 short minutes ago!!

"Republikillers (Not rated) 5 minutes ago
Congrats to Republicans - The world is burning up with hatred and climate disaster. Mission accomplished, you evil bastards.

By the way, I see that a LARGER number of Americans believe that Iraq had WMDs and was aligned with al Quaeda than a year ago. What an awesome lie machine you Republicans have created. Well done!!! Why do you hate this planet?"

I'd suggest mental intervention, but somehow I think this poster wuld pose a threat to the psychologist....


49 posted on 07/25/2006 11:49:38 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Terrorism-You Reap What You Appease........)
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To: knews_hound

Latest Column is great, will follow from now on. Thanks.


50 posted on 07/25/2006 4:13:02 PM PDT by WmShirerAdmirer
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

*blushes*

Thanks for the kind words


51 posted on 07/25/2006 4:20:36 PM PDT by knews_hound (Driving Liberals nuts since 1975 !)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

They were.


52 posted on 07/25/2006 4:21:07 PM PDT by toddlintown
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