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Scientists Say They’ve Found a Code Beyond Genetics in DNA
NY Times ^ | July 25, 2006 | NICHOLAS WADE

Posted on 07/25/2006 4:01:31 AM PDT by Pharmboy

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To: Pharmboy

Should this be considered a secondary code in the sense it has meaning or is it more structural in a mechanical sense?


61 posted on 07/25/2006 8:29:55 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Pharmboy

Somehow this must prove that Bush lied.


62 posted on 07/25/2006 8:32:15 AM PDT by scannell
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To: PatrickHenry

http://en.thinkexist.com/quotes/patrick_henry/ ,

http://www.eadshome.com/quotesoftheFounders.htm

"It CANNOT be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians, not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ!"

I am sick of you claiming evolution/chance and using one of OUR most beloved and CHristian, even his statements admit that, in your quest to disprove the Creation!


63 posted on 07/25/2006 8:33:05 AM PDT by JSDude1 (www.pence08.com)
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To: js1138

There is a need for some to exclude Genesis, but hey the truth will eventually come out.


64 posted on 07/25/2006 8:35:09 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: JSDude1

This is a scince thread, not a religion thread, Dude. So back off the preaching and go away.


65 posted on 07/25/2006 8:35:20 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: Pharmboy

ping for later...It's the Triangles...


66 posted on 07/25/2006 8:35:47 AM PDT by devane617 (It's McCain and a Rat -- Now what?)
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To: JSDude1

Medical discoveries do not disprove your faith. Perhaps you need to re-evaluate your position.


67 posted on 07/25/2006 8:37:42 AM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: js1138

Since this is a forum DUDE I can post what I want, and beside since when did posting a "QUOTE" from the Founding Fathers become "religion"..?

Or maybe that just offends your liberal-athiestic sensebilities. Well I obey the Bible, and when Pertaining: THE 1ST AMMENDMENT:!

DUDE..


68 posted on 07/25/2006 8:38:30 AM PDT by JSDude1 (www.pence08.com)
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To: Liberal Classic

no they don't...

(I agree)..


69 posted on 07/25/2006 8:39:55 AM PDT by JSDude1 (www.pence08.com)
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To: reagan_fanatic
Praise Evolution from whom all blessings flow.
Praise Evolution all creatures here below.
Evolution is so cool. It can do anything.
Praise you, Evolution.

Durka Durka Darwin Jihad
Sherpa Sherpa Bak Chimpanzee

70 posted on 07/25/2006 8:40:07 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: JSDude1

Well, your sensibilities seem to be offended as you're typing in ALL CAPS!


71 posted on 07/25/2006 8:40:58 AM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: Liberal Classic

No it's just Emphasys; I don't know how to use the bold or italics functions here on FR! ;)


72 posted on 07/25/2006 8:42:18 AM PDT by JSDude1 (www.pence08.com)
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To: js1138
[ That would exclude most of Genesis, so I guess it must be reality. ]

Unless the first part of Genesis is metaphorical... have you ever seen a tree with good knowledge and evil knowledge on it?.. i.e. The Tree of the Knowlege of Good and Evil..

Genesis Ch 1 thru 3 seen metaphorically can carry a whole nother message.. a much deeper message.. maybe Gen Ch 1 thru 3 is NOT a soap opera...

73 posted on 07/25/2006 8:48:28 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: Liberal Classic

Argumentum ad CAPSLOCK
(np) 1. The LACING of prose text with capitalization used as a HIGHLIGHTING method to demonstrate the INNATE SUPERIORITY of one's own logic over those whose TOUCH-TYPING abilities are WEAKER.


74 posted on 07/25/2006 8:49:30 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: hosepipe
Well most of the 'Christian' churches I have attended claimed it was an apple tree yet Adam and Eve are said to have discovered they were naked?? hmmmmmm and sewed together "FIG" leaves to cover their nakedness. Every time I eat an apple I do a mental check to see if I have clothes on.
75 posted on 07/25/2006 8:51:13 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: hosepipe

I'm quite willing to accept a non-literal reading of Genesis. In fact I frequently argue for such.


76 posted on 07/25/2006 8:52:57 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: BigCinBigD

I strongly suspect that science will find a lot more than just His fingerprints ... DNA in each cell may actually be generating a holographic information set such that higher dimensional beings are constructed from stuff He made after He created space and time. Think of how many cells there are in the adult human body. Each one of those trillions of cells is generating an elecromagnetic signla because of it's voltage (though very small in a single cell). Takn together, the human body is a rather powerful electromagneyic potential when compared to that needed to generate computer programs and run them on a laptop. De Broglie showed that every human being has a quantum wave function definition ... and now Physics is zeroing in on the other dimensions (in brane theory and string theory) not easily perceived in our spacetime. God creates, but He also makes amazing stuff using His creations.


77 posted on 07/25/2006 8:53:31 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Pharmboy

Interesting thread. Too bad it's brought out the mudslingers.

From what I am given to understand, there are also areas at the end of the chomosomes that don't lend themselves to sequencing using the current technology. Therefore, we are likely to be missing part of the picture from there as well. I'm sure that biochemists will some day devise a method for sequencing the currently un-sequencable sections of the genome, and another mystery will be solved.

It's a shame that people feel so threatened by science's capacity to solve mysteries that they feel the need to smear people and make up insulting rhymes. The mysteries that science can't solve involve questions of faith and purpose in life. For questions involving mechanisms of the physical world science is an excellent tool for investigation, but no one claims science has all the answers. No one except the mudslingers in these threads, maybe.


78 posted on 07/25/2006 8:55:46 AM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: JSDude1

Okay. Just so you know, long standing net tradition says that typing in all caps is equivalent to SHOUTING AT THE TOP OF YOUR LUNGS!! You don't have to know HTML code to give emphasis, you can also _underline_important_points_ or put things you *really* mean like so.


79 posted on 07/25/2006 8:59:50 AM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Fifty nifty replies; not one addresses the topic of the post. Not bad. Of course, posting on a scientific topic dilutes the quality of the comments, this one included.

OK here goes:

Eukaryotic genomes are packaged into nucleosome particles, which occlude their DNA from interaction with most DNA binding proteins. Nucleosomes have higher affinity for particular DNA sequences, reflecting the sequences' ability to sharply bend, as required by the nucleosome structure. However, whether these sequence preferences have a significant influence on nucleosome positions in vivo, and thus regulate the access of other proteins to DNA is not known. Here, we isolated nucleosome-bound sequences at high resolution from yeast, and used these sequences in a novel computational approach to construct and experimentally validate a nucleosome-DNA interaction model, and to predict the genome-wide organization of nucleosomes. Our results demonstrate that genomes encode an intrinsic nucleosome organization, and that this intrinsic organization itself can explain ~50% of the in vivo nucleosome positions. This nucleosome positioning code facilitates many specific chromosome functions, including transcription factor binding, transcription initiation, and even remodeling of the nucleosomes themselves.



You may predict the sequence and the placement of the nucleosome at

http://genie.weizmann.ac.il/pubs/nucleosomes06/
80 posted on 07/25/2006 9:00:27 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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