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A teen's Y chromosome problem (Abraham Cherrix case)
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| 7/25/06
| Cal Thomas
Posted on 07/24/2006 9:33:39 PM PDT by freespirited
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Abraham was on FOX tonight. He said he will not accept treatment. I hope the state does not take him from his parents; he has enough to deal with.
To: freespirited
The name "Starchild" explains it all. [Segue to SWINGIN' BLUE JEANS' version of "Hippy Hippy Shake"]
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posted on
07/24/2006 9:35:30 PM PDT
by
PzLdr
("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
To: freespirited
It's one thing to opt out of any treatment, but to place faith in something stupid should certify one as nuts and therefore forcefully treatable.
It's a Catch-22!
To: PzLdr
I notice that he's going by Abraham now.
I think he would be better off searching the internet for alternative treatments, rather than using a Mexican clinic which always seem to do nothing more than relieve people of their money as they face a certain death. I saw Abraham on TV, and he said he'd rather die than go through chemo again. A lot of people talk that way until they are actually near death.
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posted on
07/24/2006 9:43:35 PM PDT
by
Moonman62
(The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
To: freespirited
Personally I question the mental competence of a hippie to make such decisions at any age...
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posted on
07/24/2006 9:44:11 PM PDT
by
AntiGuv
("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
To: AntiGuv
Personally I question the mental competence of a hippie to make such decisions at any age... So the alias AntiGuv thinks the Guv should make medical decisions for hippies?
To: Moonman62
I saw he and his parents on TV also. He was much better spoken than his parents and was emphatic about not having more chemo but like you say, when the end is near he might feel differently.
Have a relative in Eastern OR that knew a non resident ranch owner who was a Dr and she had one of those clinics in Mexico. Had this relative convinced it was the answer for cancer treatment. She died a little over two years ago of cancer. Guess it only worked for her patients.
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posted on
07/24/2006 9:52:12 PM PDT
by
jazusamo
(DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
To: Moonman62
"I notice that he's going by Abraham now."A brother of mine named one of his kids Loam (no, not Loma, dirt). He named another one Yarrow Moon (loco weed). I now have a grand niece named Raven (euphemism for crow or black bird).
no yitbos
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posted on
07/24/2006 9:55:57 PM PDT
by
bruinbirdman
("Those who control language control minds. " - Ayn Rand)
To: freespirited
No, only for neglected or abused child hippies.
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posted on
07/24/2006 10:01:21 PM PDT
by
AntiGuv
("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
To: wagglebee
Not sure if you want this one; it's a pretty clear article and makes good comparisons.
So what if his name is weird. Just because people are "funny" doesn't mean they should have their rights taken away from them.
To: little jeremiah
Plus, as it is noted on the thread, he doesn't use that name. I know people who used to be weirdos and gave their children strange names but have changed.
And should people with strange names have no say in the medical treatment of their kids?
To: freespirited
Read Dr. Lorraine Day's account
here. She had to fight her own colleagues to "win" the right to choose her own treatment. She nearly lost.
She eventually treated
this horrible site in a manner very similar to what this young man is attempting.
By the way, she was really healed during this process. Not only her body, but her soul. Dr. Day became an outspoken Christian during this whole process.
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posted on
07/24/2006 10:12:00 PM PDT
by
tang-soo
(Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
To: tang-soo
I should add that Dr. Day's thinking was based upon the fact that killing your immune system is the Last thing you would want to do to combat cancer. That is what traditional treatment does.
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posted on
07/24/2006 10:15:53 PM PDT
by
tang-soo
(Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
To: Moonman62
On another thread about this I told about a friend (28 years old) who died of this same kind of cancer. Actually, she died of chemotherapy, not the cancer, and it was not a good way to die. I vowed at that time never, ever to go for chemo. Maybe surgery, maybe even radiation if it had a good track record, but never chemo. I had another friend who went through horrible times with chemo, but succumbed to cancer anyway.
I don't see why families can't make these kinds of decisions themselves. Talk about the nanny state.
To: PzLdr
Dont blame the kid for his parents' choice.
The child is suprisingly bright, well informed, well read, articulate, and very gracious in the face of outrageous governmental abuse.
He has already experienced the side effects of chemo and therefore speaks from experience.
For you to dismiss his valued judgement base on his research and experience based solely on your disdain for the the name he was given by someone else is, frankly, mystifying.
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posted on
07/24/2006 10:22:46 PM PDT
by
Wil H
To: Wil H
Having worked in oncology I can tell you that the side effects of chemo can be terrible. But I can also tell you that those "clinics" in Mexico do nothing but take desperate people's money.
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posted on
07/24/2006 10:27:46 PM PDT
by
Red RN
To: little jeremiah
Before dismissing chemo, first make sure there aren't new drugs that make it more tolerable.
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posted on
07/24/2006 10:31:47 PM PDT
by
Moonman62
(The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
To: little jeremiah
Lost my mother to lung cancer. She took chemo and showed some improvement. Then the doctors recommended radiation and that did her in. She lasted 4 months after diagnosis and I believe to this day that she would have made it much longer and had a better life value without any treatment.
To: Zack Attack
We lost a family member two years ago only 4 months after she was diagnosed. She went fast because she decided not to have treatment.
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posted on
07/24/2006 10:37:04 PM PDT
by
Red RN
To: Wil H
I knew a young woman many years ago who had Hodgkins lymphoma. She also did not want to deal with the effects of chemo [which is the young man's real complaint. If it didn't affect him badly, I think we could assume he'd stay on the regimen]. She was bright, well informed, well read, a college graduate. And like Mr. Cherrix she grasped at straws that would allow her [a]to avoid chemotherapy, [b] offer a course of treatment with surface plausibility that a cure was theoretically possible and [c]pretend that all was or would be well. The result was her death at an early age. So I have a basis for questioning his 'valued judgment', which seems more concerned with the treatment he's received than the disease that treatment is intended for. [See, for example the inconsistency of his position that he would rather to die than undergo further chemotherapy, while seeking some quasi-holistic cure to save his life.
As for noting his name, it's a lot like the phrase, "You are what you eat". Holistic medicine and "hippy" go together like 'peanut butter and jelly'. And the value system that produced the name may well have influenced his thought process and his choices. Mystify away.
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posted on
07/24/2006 10:41:35 PM PDT
by
PzLdr
("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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