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Know Thy Enemy
The Ornery American ^ | July 16, 2006 | Orson Scott Card

Posted on 07/23/2006 11:53:55 PM PDT by Mr170IQ

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A few words from OSC's point of view.
1 posted on 07/23/2006 11:53:56 PM PDT by Mr170IQ
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To: Mr170IQ

An excellent overall analysis of the situation. Appeasement always costs more lives in the long run.


2 posted on 07/24/2006 3:07:19 AM PDT by Sabatier
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To: Mr170IQ

The editorial states what should be obvious by now: the situation not going to get better on it's own and the longer we wait, the worse it will be. No sense repeating lessons of the past. The sooner we get started, the sooner it will be over and we can get on with life. Let's roll.


3 posted on 07/24/2006 5:51:42 AM PDT by GBA
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To: Mr170IQ

The Fighting Muslims

Wretched humans destroy the earth after the other,
Seek war to feed their hearts, turn in pleasure,
You do the thing most would reel; kill the brother.
Put him in horror, cry far, every measure.

Say it over again, the same refrain,
Forget peace, kill again—again.
Centuries now has been the call,
No use for any, no more value at all,
Than a dead worm in a small bird’s beak.
While in the veins of cruel time, you seek,
An awful end made certain by man.
Caliphate rule, a curse on every land.
You spew bile, say it over and again,
You know well the full weight,
Take every word and remain,
Swallow your own, full of hate.
Linger only a while in this life,
Your own will and hope in eternal strife.
You are a kind of Muslim, the latest beast,
Who would take all in a bloody feast.

Friends of Judah, lovers of peace,
Pray true for a new blessed lease,
Worry not unseemly tears, guttural noise, remember,
There are words for those who celebrate September.
In the country, get out now and hidden stay.
Take your hate and teachers, boil it up,
Return to your Satan where your heart lay,
In the liar. You drink his blood filled cup.
Without the country, turn away, quit or die,
You’ve filled your bag with blood and hair,
But know the avenger is set, certain to fly,
To put the dogs down in their dark, hollow lair.

Mullah, Mullah, hungry vulture, starving bear,
Is it God you praise, you think? Your fare?
Satan has fooled every generation of curs,
Israel is peace, love—nothing to you but burs,
To be killed off every one of them until,
Your cruel count is finished, your coffers fill.

But do not look behind you, not one turn,
You’ll see it coming, more painful fool,
Than if you were taken in one quick burn,
Instant relief is better; as it is for real men too.
We’ve no desire, hear you squeal, hear you exclaim,
Anything more as the avenger makes her claim.









4 posted on 07/24/2006 7:49:38 AM PDT by BamaAndy (Heart & Iron--the story of America through an ordinary family. ISBN: 1-4137-5397-3)
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To: Mr170IQ; Tolik

Please bump this to the OSC pinglist.


5 posted on 07/25/2006 4:10:04 AM PDT by Mr170IQ
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To: Mr170IQ; Lando Lincoln; danneskjold; quidnunc; .cnI redruM; A Longer Name; A message; Aggie Mama; ..
Orson Scott Card

Orson Scott Card - PING  [please freepmail me if you want or don't want to be pinged to Orson Scott Card political articles]

Links: his articles discussed at FR: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/k-orsonscottcard/browse  and archived here (it is a must go place for all new to OSC political writing): http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/index.html

His fresh articles appear in the Rhinoceros Times, Greensboro, NC: http://www.rhinotimes.com/greensboro/  (before being posted permanently on his The Ornery American website). Read his books/movies/and everything reviews: http://www.hatrack.com/osc/reviews/everything/ 

His "About" page: http://www.hatrack.com/osc/about.shtml


6 posted on 07/25/2006 4:51:57 AM PDT by Tolik
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In case you don't know much about him:

Orson Scott Card is one of the best Sci-Fi writers. His Ender's series are enormously popular and translated to many languages. His websites attract attention of readers from all over the world.

Since 9/11 he wrote many political essays. He is a conservative democrat of Zell Miller type (there are still few left) who is upset with hijacking of his party by the Left. His articles are more inline with the FreeRepublic spirit than with his own political website: http://www.ornery.org/index.html  that is heavily populated by American- and other Leftists who are delightfully annoyed by Mr. Card's conservatism. He does not post on that site and its moderated by somebody else.

Links: his articles discussed at FR: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/k-orsonscottcard/browse  and archived here (it is a must go place for all new to OSC political writing): http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/index.html

His literary, non-political website: http://www.hatrack.com

His fresh articles appear in the Rhinoceros Times, Greensboro, NC: http://www.rhinotimes.com/greensboro/  (before being posted permanently on his The Ornery American website). Read his books/movies/and everything reviews: http://www.hatrack.com/osc/reviews/everything/ 

His "About" page: http://www.hatrack.com/osc/about.shtml

7 posted on 07/25/2006 4:53:57 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: Mr170IQ

".....if Iran did not have its present government, the world would be vastly safer. ......."


You can thank Jimmy Carter[former President and Nobel Peace Prise winner] for Iran's present government. For that matter, you can also give Jimmy Carter credit for and thank him for the entire Mid-East crisis, including
$3.00 a gallon gas.


8 posted on 07/25/2006 5:02:13 AM PDT by sport
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To: Mr170IQ; Lando Lincoln; quidnunc; .cnI redruM; Valin; King Prout; SJackson; dennisw; monkeyshine; ..
I ask all those who are on the OSC ping list also to forgive me a second ping. But after re-reading this article, I believe it must be put in the Nailed It! category as well. Thanks


Nailed It!
Moral Clarity BUMP !

This ping list is not author-specific for articles I'd like to share. Some for the perfect moral clarity, some for provocative thoughts; or simply interesting articles I'd hate to miss myself. (I don't have to agree with the author all 100% to feel the need to share an article.) I will try not to abuse the ping list and not to annoy you too much, but on some days there is more of the good stuff that is worthy of attention. You can see the list of articles I pinged to lately  on  my page.
You are welcome in or out, just freepmail me (and note which PING list you are talking about). Besides this one, I keep 2 separate PING lists for my favorite authors Victor Davis Hanson and Orson Scott Card.  

9 posted on 07/25/2006 5:11:59 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: Mr170IQ

"Either the Lebanese government controls southern Lebanon or it doesn't. "

This is the point we need to make over and over.

Supposedly, Lebanon is a democracy. The people of Lebanon are responsible for allowing Hezbollah to bomb Israel.

They are the ones who allow terrorists in their government.

They have not protested the machinations of Hezbollah - purposeful bombing of civilians without warning, tunnels and fortifications along the border, hateful rhetoric against Israel and the US, etc. - nearly as loudly as they now protest Israel's warning them of incoming bombs.

They've had years to clean up the corruption and weakness of their government. They could and should help stop Hezbollah, now.


10 posted on 07/25/2006 5:28:38 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/index.html)
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To: Mr170IQ
In our country, our sharpest foreign policy mind is in the White House.

That's going to leave a mark over at DU. ;)

11 posted on 07/25/2006 5:35:11 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Mr170IQ
Since Hezbollah hides among civilians, there is no way Israel can defend itself except by making attacks where civilians are bound to be hurt or killed. This is not a matter that is Israel's to choose.

It's a simple sentence that presents a simple, yet clear view of civilian deaths on the Lebanese side. MSM and the UN know this, but absolutely refuse to acknowledge it. That should give you some idea about their feelings on Israel and Jews in general.

12 posted on 07/25/2006 6:10:31 AM PDT by Sax (You Done Tore Out My Heart And Stomped That Sucker Flat)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Chris Matthews on Imus this morning spent about 10 minutes saying how Bush didn't / doesn't know anything, if only we had elected Kerry. Had to watch out of morbid curiosity, then went on ignoring him as I have the past few years or so.


13 posted on 07/25/2006 6:16:01 AM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: P.O.E.

btt


14 posted on 07/25/2006 7:25:43 AM PDT by tort_feasor (FreeRepublic.com - Tommorrow's News, Today)
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To: Mr170IQ
Of course, most readers will recoil when I compare Bush to Winston Churchill.

GWB became Winston Churchill on 9/11/01 at least in this one thing.

15 posted on 07/25/2006 7:31:27 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (999-TNS)
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To: sport
I was a resident at Sloan-Kettering when the Shah was getting radiation treatment there (God, that was a long time ago).

Every night, they would bring him through a tunnel from New York Hospital across the street (NYH had luxury suites, we didn't).

There was a mob out on the street 24/7 chanting "Death to the Shah". They blocked the main entrance, NYPD was under orders to leave them alone. We all used the back door.

It's amazing that those are the people who are running Iran today.

16 posted on 07/25/2006 7:50:23 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit - it's the only way to be sure.)
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To: Mike Darancette
GWB became Winston Churchill on 9/11/01 at least in this one thing.

I like to pretend that all the wacko stuff that comes out of the White House and is signed off by Congress is simply the choosing of the lesser of two evils - I'll appease these people so I can continue fighting the real enemy. But like always, appeasement results in one thing: wanting more. If you have to give up virtually nothing to get what you want, you still have all those resources you were going to use to whine for more.

The truth of foreign policy is also the truth of domestic policy.
17 posted on 07/25/2006 2:45:11 PM PDT by kingu (Yeah, I'll vote in 2006, just as soon as a party comes along who listens.)
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To: Tolik
Tolik, thank you. OSC Is Absolutely Bang-On right.

The only thing that has ever brought concessions from Israel's enemies is victory in war. The negotiating table has never brought Israel even a moment's peace. The opposite is true -- the more they gave in, the more their enemies came to believe in Israel's weakness and the more Israeli civilians they killed.

OSC carries that through discussing past American Presidents who also decided to "talk peace" -- we all lost. We certainly tried. All appeasement has done is emboldened not only terrorists abroad -- but also those domestic terrorists within the US including those numbering among many "liberals". I've seen the span of years: OSC is right.

Bring it On, Baby.

18 posted on 07/25/2006 5:20:33 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Mr170IQ

Wish all Dems were as thoughtful


19 posted on 07/25/2006 5:43:40 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Mr170IQ

Scott Card is awesome.


20 posted on 07/25/2006 5:56:15 PM PDT by tentmaker
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