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'Chickenhawk'
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| July 23, 2006
| Jeff Jacoby
Posted on 07/23/2006 6:38:41 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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To: Mamzelle
"But my gripe with the neocons comes from what happened in the Balkans and how they never seem to have to answer for their helpfulness to Wesley Clark, Biden, Albright, McCain in turning over so much territory to the Muslims.
The jibe of "chickenhawk" has sticking power--if it didn't, the neocons wouldn't be so intent on playing jocksniffer to John McCain. His war record gives them cover."
IMO, the self-described "paleocons" are part of the pantywaist/traitor problem. And if warfare takes our Army to the point of recruiting older soldiers again, I'll be as happy to kill Euro-fascists/neo-Nazis/Islamo-fascists as to kill commies.
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posted on
07/23/2006 8:51:50 PM PDT
by
familyop
(Essayons)
To: West Coast Conservative
I would prefer the next Republican candidate be a veteran, just so these endless chickenhawk screeches would end.
To: TVenn
No one that never served deserves honor or respect for placing their personal safety at risk for their country. You are obviously a John Murtha fan, huh? He "served"...
Maybe you like John F'n Kerry? He "served"...
Algore? He "served"...
Merely enlisting doesn't make you worthy of respect as evidenced by these assclowns. Don't pretend that it does.
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posted on
07/23/2006 8:53:03 PM PDT
by
Triggerhippie
(Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
To: TVenn
Did I miss the part where Jeff Jacoby explains how with his nation at war he is too important or to valuable at home to serve? Are you a DU troll? You certainly post like one.
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posted on
07/23/2006 8:54:40 PM PDT
by
Triggerhippie
(Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
To: Mr.Smorch
As I recall, Lincoln served as a captain in the Black Hawk war in 1832, so he had some military chops.
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posted on
07/23/2006 8:54:56 PM PDT
by
Hootowl
To: Democratshavenobrains
The leftist hero, Bill Klintoon never served, yet he got our troops killed in Africa and involved in a war in the Balkans w/o UN or Senate approval.
How do the leftist idiots explain away Klintoon's record as a chickenhawk?
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posted on
07/23/2006 8:58:15 PM PDT
by
Retief
To: Retief
They basically say he "agonized" over it and did it to save poor non-white people so its ok.
To: TVenn
Please contact your nearest military recruiter. Your nation is at war. Jeff Jacoby is 46 or 47 (born in 1959), so it's probably too late for him to enlist.
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posted on
07/23/2006 9:07:07 PM PDT
by
Not A Snowbird
(Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
To: dbehsman
"When I was three years old, I had close to half of my left lung removed due to an abscess. Later on, the lung pretty much grew back to what the normal size should be. I do not know if the military would have taken me or not. I probably could have pressed the matter and gotten in, but now I doubt that I could get in. I'm 35 years old right now."
Our US Army might not take you for any combat specialty at this point in time. But you are 35 and at least somewhat good at writing. We as a nation can benefit much more from your pro-defense loyalty and ability to write than from having you dig holes, take part in creating fire volume and take abuse from the uneducated. At your age of 35, our Army will not allow you to become an officer despite our Army's shortage of older, wiser leaders.
The pen (and now, the keyboard) is mightier than the sword (or more accurately, a very strong support to our military forces).
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posted on
07/23/2006 9:09:34 PM PDT
by
familyop
(Essayons)
To: John Lenin
Not everyone who serves deserves honor and respectAnd don't forget Timothy McVeigh was a Gulf War veteran who won a Bronze Star Medal.
To: TWohlford
"Strangely, those in the military are almost unanimous in their opinion that we're doing the right thing in Iraq and Afghanistan, and that the MSM has it all wrong.
Funny that the Left disqualifies opinions from "Chicken Hawks" but is also deaf to those in the military whose opinion doesn't match theirs."
Remember in 2001, during the fiasco in Florida, Algore tried to disallow the votes of military personnel voting from overseas because he was quite sure they'd be nearly unanimously in favor of GWB.
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posted on
07/23/2006 9:26:44 PM PDT
by
Rembrandt
(We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
To: West Coast Conservative
On the lighter side
One of the most direct wars was WW1. In 1914 the British Army recruiting offices could not keep pace. Two million men rushed to enlist. Cheering, shouting, for God, King and country. It has been estimated that seven out of every ten men went to the trenches.
The other three, were transport, cooks, signallers, medics, armourers and office wallahs. By 1916, the stories of the carnage came back. The lice, the wet, the gas, the barbed wire, the deaths. Full face in front of machine guns- or be shot for cowardice.
Conscription was then threatened, if men did not then come forward. One million, six hundred thousand individual requests for exemption ( deferals) were then received. The orders were then to conscript 'em all.
It may be a matter of chance, whether one is able to claim service in action. Others counted their luck and just served. For those of us that had that luck, we say we served, but add, " nothing fancy mind you".
A touchy subject. The lousy liberals know how to push buttons though. (Laughs).
To: Gone GF
'"Strangely, those in the military are almost unanimous in their opinion that we're doing the right thing in Iraq and Afghanistan, "
==
Sources? I'd like to read about this.'
--
I'd guess you never served.
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posted on
07/23/2006 9:32:24 PM PDT
by
Rembrandt
(We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
To: Marius3188
It seems more likely that he served in the Cavalry.
Sorry, pet peeve of mine.
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posted on
07/23/2006 9:34:08 PM PDT
by
FreedomPoster
(Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
To: woofie
"I smoked dope, went to college, got a high draft #, was nuts and deaf ...the military wisely chose to leave me alone.I dont claim to have have served my country but I can be as pro war as I want."
You didn't run away like Bubba did and like the sweeties up in Canada did. It sounds like if called, you would have gone, maybe not happily. You're ok in my book.
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posted on
07/23/2006 9:39:32 PM PDT
by
Rembrandt
(We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
To: TVenn
Ease up.
There's a reason that it's an all-volunteer military.
76
posted on
07/23/2006 9:42:32 PM PDT
by
SmithL
(The fact that they can't find Hoffa is proof that he never existed.)
To: Democratshavenobrains
"I would prefer the next Republican candidate be a veteran, just so these endless chickenhawk screeches would end."
OTOH, I would prefer the next Republican candidate be a black woman who, though she has never served in the Military, has served over a large gaggle of Left Coast commies as the head of a major University. To quote a phrase "and you know who I'm talkin' 'bout."
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posted on
07/23/2006 9:44:35 PM PDT
by
Rembrandt
(We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
To: Retief
"How do the leftist idiots explain away Klintoon's record as a chickenhawk?"
Retief, what happened to your game in the Open?
78
posted on
07/23/2006 9:46:18 PM PDT
by
Rembrandt
(We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
To: Mr.Smorch
Shouldn't this go into the author is a retard catagory?
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posted on
07/23/2006 9:57:14 PM PDT
by
Khepera
(Do not remove by penalty of law!)
To: Rembrandt
I am not disagreeing with you, but I think it is accurate to point out that those that are serving in Iraq and Afghanistan are not allowed to disagree with their mission. I think a vast majority of them think we are doing the right thing, but they have to say that they do, even if they don't.
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posted on
07/23/2006 10:25:26 PM PDT
by
ga medic
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