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7/21 Middle East Live Thread
Middle East Live Thread ^ | 7/21/06 | me

Posted on 07/20/2006 10:33:33 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

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To: AdmSmith

BBC reporting that 3-4 divisions are at the border, this with word that another reserve division is being called up. Sounds like a fairly serious invasion force.


681 posted on 07/21/2006 8:46:54 AM PDT by jhp
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To: Fitzcarraldo

I don't think the Lebanese have any intention of fighting Syria, considering Hezbollah holds 23 seats is Lebanon's parliament.

The Lebanon government has, still and will continue to back Hezbollah, irregardless what their talking head puppet propagandists say.

With that in mind, Hezbollah is not the only problem.


682 posted on 07/21/2006 8:47:40 AM PDT by Rain-maker
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To: Fitzcarraldo
From Lebanon's Army Website:

Mission

http://www.lebarmy.gov.lb/English/Mission.asp

The LAF’s national orientation is based on the following:

Facing the Israeli occupation and its perpetual aggression in South Lebanon and West Bekaa and supporting the steadfastness of Lebanese citizens to ensure the complete withdrawal of the Israeli forces to internationally recognized borders.

Defending the country and its citizens against all aggression.

Confronting all threats against the country’s vital interests.

Coordinating with Arab armies in accordance with ratified treaties and agreements.

Maintaining internal security and stability.

Engaging in social and development activities according to national interests.

Undertaking relief operations in coordination with other public and humanitarian institutions.

683 posted on 07/21/2006 8:48:32 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: jhp
I am watching it live on Fox.Amazing.
684 posted on 07/21/2006 8:48:50 AM PDT by fatima (You can read History or make it,fatima)
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To: jhp

Interesting blurb from DEBKA about the fighting....

Some report to DEBKAfile that in close combat, ****they have heard officers shouting in Farsi.****** (emphasis mine)

Just as in Jenin 2002, Israeli forces encountered Hizballah and al Qaeda fighters in support of Palestinians, now they are facing members of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards who are aiding Hizballah in Lebanon.

The men come home with hair-raising accounts of storming the hundreds of bunkers and caves in which Hizballah fighters are lurking.

On Wednesday, July 19, Israeli soldiers fought their way into a tunnel in the Maroun es Ras area, blew it up killing the 10-15 fighters inside, and emerged to engage another group of Hizballah hiding in the dense foliage a few yards away. A hand-to-hand battle ensued in which the first two soldiers, 1st Sgt Yonatan Hadasi, 21, and 1st Sgt. Yotam Gilboa lost their lives. Israel’s death toll would have been higher had not rescue and ambulance teams braved heavy fire to extricate the wounded.


685 posted on 07/21/2006 8:51:49 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Terrorism-You Reap What You Appease........)
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To: 4butnomorethan30characters

A'ight, you got me. Is RP rendevous point?


686 posted on 07/21/2006 8:52:30 AM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: Fitzcarraldo
Hopefully, mobilizing the Lebanese 'Army' for offensive moves against Israel is a bluff...I don't think the generals of this army are pushing for this...I suspect they will form a line in the south some distance away from the Israelis, which the Israeli ground troops will probably honor.

. Bingo! The only "Lebanese Army" targets which have been hit have been those in which Hizzbulah sympathizers have acted independently! Israel NEEDS (and has vainly requested..., for years) a competent Lebanese Army controlling security in that "Nation"...

687 posted on 07/21/2006 8:53:40 AM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: fatima

May God protect Israel and her people. I pray for their troops safety.

The next 24-48 hours are going to be tough.


688 posted on 07/21/2006 8:55:03 AM PDT by racing fan (Go Israel!)
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To: All

Pretty good video from an aerial observation vehicle, shows MLRS launcher firing Katyushas, then the subequent. Note the Hezbollah terrorists running at the last second.


Hezbolla katyusha luncher destroyed by IDF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyl5d09HMSc


689 posted on 07/21/2006 8:56:25 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: Fitzcarraldo

troops loading up, hugging, engines firing up....
7PM start time?


690 posted on 07/21/2006 8:56:41 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Terrorism-You Reap What You Appease........)
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To: racing fan
They are shaking hands-giving hugs and getting into their vehicles.I pray too.
691 posted on 07/21/2006 8:57:21 AM PDT by fatima (You can read History or make it,fatima)
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To: tcrlaf

I see that. Things are starting to move? They sure look like they're getting ready to roll.


692 posted on 07/21/2006 8:57:34 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (What's so hard to understand about the word illegal?)
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To: tcrlaf

Soldiers on Cell phones, weapons being handed up, reporter high on a mountain overlooking the scenes in a flack jacket...

I get the feeling the big show is about to start? Or are they going into night positions?


693 posted on 07/21/2006 8:58:20 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Terrorism-You Reap What You Appease........)
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[Before reading the following, please take a look at the archived version of this page for Feb. 11, 2005 and note the changes: http://web.archive.org/web/20050211152310/http://www.lebarmy.gov.lb/article.asp?cat=6&ln=en

More from a Lebanese Army website: http://www.lebarmy.gov.lb/article.asp?cat=6&ln=en

11-The present situation in the region and threats against Lebanon and Syria:

The Arab region is passing through a sensitive and crucial time in its history, due to the rise of Israeli monstrous oppression against the unarmed Palestinians and the absence of any political reconciliation on one hand, and the American occupation of Iraq with its complicated effects on the other.

After three years since the start of the Palestinian uprising that endures oppression, mass murder, home demolition, destruction of agricultural land, siege, racial and religious discrimination, Israel was unable with its advanced technologically to break down the will of the Palestinian people. They were unable to stop their uprising or their justified fight to create their own sovereign state and retrieve their lost land and rights.

And after eight months of American-British occupation of Iraq, the situation is still fogy, especially that the security, politics, economic and social situation is getting worse and has become an anarchy. Furthermore, since the U.S. was unable to find any weapons of mass destruction which was their main motive in launching the war, the voices of opposition were heard from within the U.S. and Britain in response to their policy makers. Such voices argued the aims of the war, and the future success of this occupation especially that the security situation has become unbearable, since the daily attacks on the coalition forces is leading to great human and material losses.

With such evident situation, the threats towards Lebanon and Syria have risen by the Israeli violations of the Syrian air space on 5th of October 2003 over the village of Ein-Sahib and the ratification of the American congress for the Syrian accountability act, and finally the Israeli air and sea violations of the Lebanese territory.

Those threats are launched under the slogans raised by both Syrian and Lebanese in supporting the resistance movements which are labeled as terrorist by the U.S. and Israel.

Yet the problems of Israeli region have risen from their rejection to all peace proposals, their continuation in settlement building and demolition. This also goes in accordance with the American conflict in Iraq which is the result of misconception at the Iraqi people and the lack of a clear political sight in resolving the Iraqi problem.

Those threats come as a result to the Palestinian uprising and its effects on the internal structure at the Zionist region. It is also a result of the conflicting situation that the U.S. is facing in Iraq, represented by the rise of resistance and the lack at diplomatic solutions which may give way for the Iraqi’s to gain their national independence, and the efforts of those two states to push the conflict outwards and putting the whole region on the brink of explosion.

The facing of such challenges is based on more resistance, preparation for all circumstances, patriotism, and following the path of the political leadership of Syria and Lebanon towards the Arab-Israeli conflict and regional cases. This is based on clutching to our rights and the Arab justified demands, as well as the decisions and conventions of the International community regardless of the circumstances, since it is the only just and fair way to solve the Arab-Israeli conflict.

In this respect comes the decision at the Armed Forces Commander General Micheal Sleiman in keeping up the will of the resistance by using force to those who try to disturb the peace and those who bet on changing the situation under various slogans. This is aided by the readiness to give more sacrifice in facing up to the Israeli enemy in various forms and means available to protect the integrity, co-existence, and the independence of the nation for its people.

On the sixtieth memory of independence, the army walk on the path of honor, sacrifice and loyalty, with a solid will, with a deep faith, loyal to its value and principles, rising the torch of giving that never turn off, preserving the independence, the heritage and sacrifices of its people.

The challenge is big, but oath is bigger, the army will remain in citizens’ conscience, a light that will always face all kind of dangers, shining with hope and prosperity.

694 posted on 07/21/2006 8:58:49 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: CAluvdubya

Time to unleash hell?


695 posted on 07/21/2006 8:59:52 AM PDT by racing fan (Go Israel!)
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To: SE Mom

Thanks for posting that...I am a hugh Bibi fan.


696 posted on 07/21/2006 9:00:14 AM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((((( ISRAEL)))))))))))))
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To: finnman69

Memo To Lebanese "Civilians":
If you're standing outside watching the pretty rockets rise, chances are something will be coming to visit very shortly....


698 posted on 07/21/2006 9:02:50 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Terrorism-You Reap What You Appease........)
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To: All
From the Lebanese Army website, 2005:

"...In this context the resolution 1559 issued by the security council on 3/9/2004 with all its ambiguity and contradictions, is considered an unconventional precedent in the history of international relations, constituting an interference in the sovereignty and independence of Lebanon. The resolution stated the following:..."

So even a year ago, 1559 was regarded as a problem by even the Lebanese military - it is no wonder that Israel has acted because Lebanon in its officially stated policy has preferred to dissent with 1559.

699 posted on 07/21/2006 9:04:08 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: tcrlaf

I believe that because I believe these types would kill the wounded... could be wrong. I just find it sad Israel lost two in that operation.


700 posted on 07/21/2006 9:04:54 AM PDT by BamaAndy (Heart & Iron--the story of America through an ordinary family. ISBN: 1-4137-5397-3)
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