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Gingrich says it's World War III
Seattle Times ^ | July 15, 2006 | David Postman

Posted on 07/15/2006 8:32:36 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative

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To: DaveMfromVa

"If we put the "disadvantaged" and the street kid who barely can pick his nose let alone find a job in uniform"

That's one of those Viet Nam era leftist propaganda nostrums that has become the received wisdom of which I spoke in my last note.

It is not the case that the draft picked exclusively on the poor. Sure, people with money always have a better chance to game the system, but there were plenty of middle- and upper-middle class boys drafted, and plenty of moneyed heirs went through ROTC or other officer procurement programs to avoid being drafted as a private soldier.

Matter of fact, the quality of recruits plunged in the mid-seventies after the draft was ended. I know. I was there and I saw it.

The draft will drive the quality of military personnel up, not down.

"We don't need 125000 more men"

More like ten times that.

"And some would say we already have in the person of the greatest sack of crap that occupied the Oval Office in my lifetime. "

Pshaw. Carter makes Chamberlain look like William the Conqueror.


221 posted on 07/16/2006 9:59:44 PM PDT by dsc
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

"and resigned under pressure of a cooked-up "ethical" probe"

That's not exactly how I remember it.

There was a lot of nasty talk about him committing adultery then divorcing his first wife when she was in the hospital dying of cancer, or something like that. But we were giving him the benefit of the doubt on that gossip, and he was hanging strong.

Then it came out that he really did commit adultery in his second marriage, then dumped his second wife to marry his accomplice, and that's what sank him. His undenied faithlessness lost him the support of the faithful.


222 posted on 07/16/2006 10:07:37 PM PDT by dsc
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To: dsc

There was also an ethical probe into a history class he taught. It ended up going nowhere but was a big part of his decision to resign.

Newt has too much baggage, to put it succinctly.


223 posted on 07/16/2006 10:53:39 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: dsc
Perhaps but I'm not sure why you think the American population only consists of manly American males.

The term "WWII" wouldn't serve any purpose but to make those who tend toward fear more afraid than necessary.

There is, in fact, not much to fear as you point out. That's why inflammatory verbiage which conjures up images of trench warfare, concentration camps, etc. isn't helpful.

"War on Terror" does just fine IMO because that beautifully sums up what it is.

224 posted on 07/16/2006 11:14:42 PM PDT by what's up
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To: TheLion
A person like Newt Gringrich even with his evil reputation courtesy of the MSM/DEM party, could rise to the presidency in a certain environment.

9-11 brought the people together and made President Bush's numbers go through the roof...just ten months after losing the popular vote.

The next coordinated attack on our country may dwarf 9-11 in terms of dead and wounded.

Newt's ideology and intelligence could be the right man at the right time...just like Ronald Reagan rebounded after an unsuccessful run at the nomination.

I wouldn't hesitate to vote for him...anytime.

225 posted on 07/16/2006 11:31:35 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: rbg81
The truth is we can't win WWIII and have mushrooming entitlement spending at the same time. We've got to make a choice.

Most will choose entitlement and a reduced dihmini tax. And I am not joking.

226 posted on 07/17/2006 6:04:27 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

"There was also an ethical probe into a history class he taught. It ended up going nowhere but was a big part of his decision to resign."

I guess I could be mistaken, but I didn't think that particular bogus charge had much of an effect.

"Newt has too much baggage, to put it succinctly."

It would be hard for me to support a man who dumped not one, but two wives in favor of accomplices in adultery.


227 posted on 07/17/2006 9:18:08 AM PDT by dsc
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To: West Coast Conservative
He said Bush needs to deliver a speech to Congress and "connect all the dots" for Americans.

This has been Bush's one greatest failure in the whole WoT. He has allowed the Left to splinter the big issue of Islamic terrorism into the separate issues of 9/11, Iraq, Afghanistan and others. He should be relentlessly cementing all these together in peoples' minds. They're each different heads of the same Hydra.

The monster is Islamo-fascism. This is WWIII.

228 posted on 07/17/2006 9:23:17 AM PDT by TChris (Banning DDT wasn't about birds. It was about power.)
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To: what's up

"Perhaps but I'm not sure why you think the American population only consists of manly American males."

Darn it, I keep forgetting that women have the vote now.

"The term "WWII" wouldn't serve any purpose but to make those who tend toward fear more afraid than necessary."

Seems to me like the term "WWIII" might serve to wake some from the slumber of complacency.

"That's why inflammatory verbiage which conjures up images of trench warfare, concentration camps, etc. isn't helpful."

What about inflammatory verbiage that conjures up images similar to those in Clancy's latest book, "Teeth of the Tiger?"

"War on Terror" does just fine IMO because that beautifully sums up what it is."

Except that a lot of people seem to think that the war on terror will be a lower-case war, fought by others a long way away, and won rather easily. Others, of course, think it's just Bush administration hokum.


229 posted on 07/17/2006 9:28:47 AM PDT by dsc
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To: dsc
What about inflammatory verbiage that conjures up images similar to those in Clancy's latest book, "Teeth of the Tiger?"

LOL! I think a few hundred more million have images of WWII seared in their mind than images from "Teeth of the Tiger".

You forget often that women have the vote? Hmmm.

230 posted on 07/17/2006 12:17:07 PM PDT by what's up
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To: redgolum

I believe you. Its amazing to me how the entitlement mentality has sapped the American spirit.


231 posted on 07/17/2006 2:28:35 PM PDT by rbg81 (1)
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To: what's up

"You forget often that women have the vote? Hmmm."

After two Clinton administrations, you still think that is a good idea?


232 posted on 07/18/2006 12:34:45 PM PDT by dsc
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To: dsc
After two Clinton administrations, you still think that is a good idea?

You want to take the vote from the blacks too?

233 posted on 07/18/2006 3:53:34 PM PDT by what's up
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To: what's up

"You want to take the vote from the blacks too?"

That is such a dirty little trick. You see the homo activists using it to draw an equivalence between race and perversion...hell, almost everybody with an axe to grind uses it to try and discredit the opposition.


234 posted on 07/18/2006 4:52:25 PM PDT by dsc
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