Hizballah Brings out Iranian Silkworm to Hit Israel Navy Corvette

DEBKA file ^ | July 15, 2006, 1:37 PM (GMT+02:00) | DEBKAfile Exclusive Military Analysis

[mother22wife21]

What terrible beauty.

[ASA Vet]

You can find most of the 2006 Israeli War threads compiled on keyword 2006israelwar. There are a couple threads there about the leaflets.

[familyop]

"Reports of Pikud Tzafon being hit.

With ground to ground rockets."

Hmmm. That's Northern Command. Hezbollah's really asking for it.

[musicman]

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/105/house/1/votes/592/

The link above, is from the WP database with all the votes from almost every Congresss, showing what the Bill was, what Congress, how the votes went, the yeas and nays, and how each Congresscritter voted.

The above link was from the 105th Congress, 1st session,(11/06/97). The Bill was H RES 188. It concerned: Acquisition by Iran of C-802 Cruise Missiles, with the title: Urging the executive branch to take action regarding the acquisition by Iran of C-802 cruise missiles.

The votes were 414 yea, 8 nay, 11 not voting. You can click on anything "blue", and it will show you a more in depth description, ( IMHO a GOOD BOOKMARK OVERALL).

Check out who one of the 7 Dems were, that voted NAY to have the Clinton Administration take action against Iran having these C-802 missiles (bought from China)......

....ole Mr.Redeploy himself !! (...maybe that's why he wants our troops in Okinawa, so those C-802's he thinks were OK for Iran to have don't hit ONE OF OUR SHIPS or TROOPS !!)

OBTW, What DID the Crinton Administration do about this 414 to 8 vote concernong these C-802's that Iran purchased ??....

They sent a letter through a third party to give to the Iranians to "have some talks sometime".....

...in other words, NOTHING, like the rest of Crintons GREAT foreign policy decisions....

[familyop]

Here's another one.

Israel drops leaflets over Beirut denouncing Hezbollah
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1527336/posts

[Coldwater Creek]

Wouldn't you think that Israel would have the entire U.S. Atlantic fleet at their disposal?

[dennisw]

This means that Iran has been planning this scenario to egg Israel into this fight. Before this is over, Israel will have to attack Iran directly using nukes

I will agree that the Iranians are goading Israel, taunting Israel, drawing Israel into a trap. Whether the trap works or not is another thing. Muslim mentality as far as chess playing, perceiving weakness and making war is good. But how good is the implementation?

[usmcobra]

Eilat class corvette(No Phalanx CIWS visible, may not have been installed as per your description)

heavily-armed Saar-4.5 Hetz/ Nirit Class missile boat (Phalanx CIWS Very visible At the bow)

[FreedomPoster]

Sea-skimming cruise missile, an Exocet on steroids. Non-nuclear, at least in the U.S. inventory.

[Dark Skies]

Also, the Saar-5 is equipped with sophisticated detection radar and countermeasures that may have created a semi-effective diversion for the silkworm.

I would imagine a big part of the shock of the Israeli Navy is that the Saar-5 systems didn't completely detect and deflect an incoming missile. Additionally, the Saar-5 has a stealthy radar signature that was obviously not stealthy enough.

[FreedomPoster]

Thanks, and thanks for the keyword heads-up. Always nice to know which one is the good'n.

[FreedomPoster]

That data was from Andrew Toppan's site. He's generally pretty good. He's been around for a long time, I remember reading his data on newsgroups, long before he had a web site.

FWIW

http://www.hazegray.org/

[SauronOfMordor]

I think China would have her people eat grass for a hundred years if it meant the end of American power.

More precisely, the inner core of the Chinese Communist Party would not mind having the Chinese people live in a state of peasantry forever if the Chinese rulers thereby achieved world power

The emerging Chinese middle class is a bigger threat to the power of the rulers than America is. They're just needed for the moment in order to produce an economy that can challenge the US.

Ruling classes everywhere prefer a poverty-stricken, uneducated populace -- it means they have no challengers, and provides a ready supply of servants and concubines

[1234]

Western credibility is shattered when we claim that state sponsors of terrorism will be held responsible, then we run away from confrontations with Iran and Syria....

yup; but this is an old reality-jus blusterin by the Pres..

[strange1]

I get all misty eyed seeing the "Jersy. I spent some time on the Iowa. Apparently Lebanon suffers from some short term memory loss about those days. Nothing like making swimming pools on shore from 25 miles out.

[SauronOfMordor]

If this was a Silkworm strike, I've got to think the CIWS wasn't activated, and that the Israelis didn't foresee this threat

Or the CIWS failed to hit it until it was just a few yards out.

[usmcobra]

I know I went to his site first. According to his data the Israelis may have left off some weapons systems because of concerns over being top heavy.

Those concerns are noted in the description you posted.

[Dave Elias]

"It would be a shame if one of those Hizballah missiles went astray and took out the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem."

Not to mention highly implausible if not unfeasible given the Silkworm is an anti-ship missile.

[SC Swamp Fox]

The USS Stark was hit by two Exocets in 1987. The Exocets each carried a 352 lb. warhead. 37 sailors were killed. The crew fought the fires all night and they received assistance from other U.S. Navy ships in the area. They saved the ship.

The USS Stark was a Perry Class Frigate (445ft, 3638 tons)
Decommissioned: 1999, Scrapped: 2005

[Dave Elias]

"This is an opponent that deserves a measure of grudging respect. We haven't see Arabs this skillful in any of their past wars with Israel."

Au contrare, Hezbollah have a long track record of success againt the IDF during the war in Lebanon. Probably the major reason there are no Israeli boots on the ground in this stauch. Israel's VC if you will.