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Is America really a police state, or is that wishful thinking?
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Posted on 07/15/2006 12:29:23 AM PDT by Nonesuch

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1 posted on 07/15/2006 12:29:30 AM PDT by Nonesuch
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To: Nonesuch

When the Democrats had the congress in 1971, I think they arrested about 12,000 of us.


2 posted on 07/15/2006 12:37:04 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: Nonesuch

Oh... If this was a police state, or if we were Nazis reincarnated, there'd be no doubt about it.

Which is why I think everybody who says either is pathetic.


3 posted on 07/15/2006 12:45:29 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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You should go to Amnesty Internationals website and look over their statistics on percentage of population incarcerated by country. Guess whose leads that list.


4 posted on 07/15/2006 12:48:41 AM PDT by Postal Worker with a gun (I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.....)
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5 posted on 07/15/2006 12:51:29 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: coconutt2000

"Oh... If this was a police state, or if we were Nazis reincarnated, there'd be no doubt about it. "


That is a great truth you just stated.

When something is off the charts, I always assume it is a joke, I can't seem to accept that these ideas are serious to some people.





6 posted on 07/15/2006 12:51:51 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: Nonesuch

Wrong question.

Is violent criminal activity tolerated in these United States?

Are criminals who masquerade behind pretenses of freedom of speech regularly arrested and charged?

Is anyone fooled by the perpetual law breaking activity of Socialist criminals and bums?

Is everyone aware that we are a nation at war and that protesting our government and our leaders is deemed to be sedition and subject to serious penalties?


7 posted on 07/15/2006 12:52:56 AM PDT by CBart95
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"Is everyone aware that we are a nation at war and that protesting our government and our leaders is deemed to be sedition and subject to serious penalties?"


Great example, when people say things like that, I think they are kidding.


8 posted on 07/15/2006 1:00:42 AM PDT by ansel12
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Yes, what a fascist country is the U.S. Why there thousands of er I mean hundreds uh hmmm I mean tens of er wait a sec....NOBODY!!! has been thrown into jail for criticizing the president. Yeah, what a police state! (smirk) Yet I routinely read comments by stupid libs about living in a fascist, police state. Yeah, I know, it would be great fun to make the libs who utter those outrageous comments actually live in a real police state.


9 posted on 07/15/2006 2:07:22 AM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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If America was a free country, I'd be able to own property.


10 posted on 07/15/2006 6:04:40 AM PDT by VRing (Happiness is a perfect sling bruise.)
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To: coconutt2000

The accusations of the Left are merely their confessions.


11 posted on 07/15/2006 7:20:12 AM PDT by Noumenon (Liberals: America's domestic enemies. Treat them as such.)
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To: ansel12

Excellent new prospect for Gitmo after the scum is eradicated.


12 posted on 07/15/2006 11:38:54 AM PDT by CBart95
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Is America really a police state, or is that wishful thinking?

No America is not really a police state, but many on both sides of the political fence have 'wishful thoughts' to that effect.

13 posted on 07/15/2006 11:50:14 AM PDT by tpaine
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Oh come now Tom.

The question is transparently disgraceful. It's "rhetorical" and contains the indictment, signed sealed and delivered from some left wing snot nosed lame brain.

In time of great war it is intolerably insulting to this great nation.

Cut the crap.


14 posted on 07/15/2006 12:29:08 PM PDT by CBart95
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Nonesuch posted:

"Is America really a police state, or is that wishful thinking?"

No America is not really a police state, but many on both sides of the political fence have 'wishful thoughts' to that effect.

Bart pounces:

Oh come now Tom. The question is transparently disgraceful. It's "rhetorical" and contains the indictment, signed sealed and delivered from some left wing snot nosed lame brain.

Sorry, I thought it was authored by Nonesuch.

In time of great war it is intolerably insulting to this great nation. Cut the crap.

No 'crap' intended, -- my comment stands. Far too many on both sides want to use war to deny liberty. - We've been 'at war' virtually my entire life. I served in the 'cold' version '55/'58.

15 posted on 07/15/2006 1:09:44 PM PDT by tpaine
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Your dispassionate reply is disarming.
And startling in it's self composure.

Thank goodness someone is in control at times like this.

Sheepish and "in my place".

Thank you for your grace.


16 posted on 07/15/2006 5:22:03 PM PDT by CBart95
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To: tpaine; CBart95; coconutt2000; driftless; ansel12
I'm no liberal, yet I do not believe blind obedience is the right approach, and I know the Sedition Act was declared unconstitutional.
Is everyone aware that we are a nation at war and that protesting our government and our leaders is deemed to be sedition and subject to serious penalties?
War or no war, "Sedition" is not a crime in the USA today, unless you are in the military or otherwise employed by the US government.

People are free to oppose and protest the war, are not arrested for planning, organizing, or attending these protests, yet some people still suggest America is a police state. People ask "What about the 800 people rounded up and thrown in jail for three days after the Chicago protests?". If this were a police state, those anti-war protesters would have been charged and convicted, not released on an I-bond and (in 90% of the cases) had the charges dropped.

In time of great war it is intolerably insulting to this great nation. Cut the crap.
In a time of war is the easiest time for a free country to lose freedom and fall into a police state. While we are at "war" the need for vigilance is greater than at peace.
17 posted on 07/15/2006 5:47:54 PM PDT by Nonesuch (Sedition: subversion of a constitution, incitement of discontent/resistance to authority.)
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Oh please.

Disabuse yourself of the silly notion that wartime is a liesurely time to contemplate the fantasies of malcontents...ie: those morons who have the gall to demonstrate anything other than concern for our national safety and survival as well as solidarity in support of our troops and our leadership.

The time for debating the finepoints of egalitarianism is best left to effete airheads in time of peace when issues life and limb are not in threat of dire consequence.

The hard practicality of war dictates that full support of the war effort means you are either with us or decidedly against us and the consequences are crystal clear.


18 posted on 07/16/2006 12:15:12 AM PDT by CBart95
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Claim what you please, the law says otherwise -- dissent in a time of war could be argued to be unpatriotic, or even immoral, but this nation does not (yet) mandate patriotism, does not (usually) legislate morality.
The hard practicality of war dictates that full support of the war effort means you are either with us or decidedly against us and the consequences are crystal clear.
Sounds like you want the USA to be a police state, and if the war never ends, neither does the supression of liberty?

Either that, or it sounds like a personal threat, and we all know how FR deals with that.

19 posted on 07/16/2006 4:19:30 PM PDT by Nonesuch (Sedition: subversion of a constitution, incitement of discontent/resistance to authority.)
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Your clumsy attempt to declare my comment a threat ends with a threat of your own.

Cute.

Never one to risk taking an objective view of my comments, you delve into obvious attempts to discredit me personally which also is a violation of the TOS of FR...which you appear at the ready to tattle on.

The sum out for your quaint bit of verbal terpsicory is to totally justify treason in times of war and to attack any patriot who objects to all out attacks on our troops ,our leaders and the principles on which our nation is founded.

As this episode in our history plays out, it is you who will be greeted by large doses of reality and that is no threat. War is no place for the effete or the waspish as you are certain to be taught.


20 posted on 07/17/2006 1:17:07 AM PDT by CBart95
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