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Cal Thomas: Are Republicans Kidding Us?
Tribune Media Services ^ | July 14, 2006 | Cal Thomas

Posted on 07/14/2006 3:37:44 AM PDT by RWR8189

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To: Amelia

Kingston is the congressman for coastal Georgia, and I am moving to the coast in the next few months, so he will be my congressman. John Linder is my favorite in Georgia, he supports the FAIR TAX. Kingston is better than most. In the Senate, I like Senator Coburn from Oklahoma, he disavows any earmarks.


21 posted on 07/14/2006 6:55:09 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: RWR8189

The Republicans are going to take bumps for their incompetence in 2006 and 2008.

The TOTAL lack of concern for the opinion of the majority of Americans and the UTTER ARROGANCE of the current administration in forwarding an agenda of de-Anglization of America to pander to small pressure groups and rectally oscualte the exploiters of illegal invaders who violate our borders with impugnity is literally without parallel in American history.

The Administration HAS been spending money like a druken sailor. True, we ARE at war and a war-time economy necessitiates higher expenditures. But the REAL FLAVOR of "compassionate conservative" is just starting to sink in with a lot of conservatives - Republican and independent and the taste isn't a good one.


22 posted on 07/14/2006 7:11:36 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
Kingston is better than most.

He is better than many, and he's a really nice guy, to boot.

I just think he's gotten a little too concerned with "bringing home the bacon" and not concerned enough about balancing the budget.

23 posted on 07/14/2006 7:16:06 AM PDT by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come.)
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To: xzins

You're belly-aching over a few percentage points. Besides, their chart shows considerable growth prior to the start of the Iraq war. Not something I'd expect when Repubs control both houses and the Whitehouse.


24 posted on 07/14/2006 7:24:40 AM PDT by BufordP ("I am stuck on Al Franken 'cause Al Franken's stuck on me!" -- Stupid)
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To: BufordP

The president has said on a number of occasions that the growth of non-war, non-entitlement, discretionary spending is below the inflation rate.


25 posted on 07/14/2006 7:28:48 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: xzins
Is that in the Constitution somewhere?

Because they're not allowed to cut the entitlements

26 posted on 07/14/2006 7:28:48 AM PDT by DManA
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To: xzins
Not nearly good enough. Substantial CUTS are needed to balance the other necessary spending. As a bonus these cuts will actually be GOOD for the country.

the growth of non-war, non-entitlement, discretionary spending is below the inflation rate.

27 posted on 07/14/2006 7:31:10 AM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

Only in the sense that they're bound by their own laws. They could, of course, change their laws about required SS payments, but there's not a snowball's chance in hell that ANY congresscritter from any party or affiliation will vote for that.


28 posted on 07/14/2006 7:33:18 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: DManA

So which would you cut:

Funding the war and our troops in the field?

Social Security payments to retirees?

Medicaid/care payments?

Military/Goverment Retirements already being paid for service rendered?

Contracts already legally signed?


29 posted on 07/14/2006 7:38:10 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: xzins
The president has said on a number of occasions that the growth of non-war, non-entitlement, discretionary spending is below the inflation rate.

You'd be surprised what he consideres "war" (homeland security) spending. I've even seen the farm subsidies get categorized as homeland security spending because it purportedly gives us security if our food supply gets cut off. Anytime you hear "homeland security" spending or "war on terror" spending excluded from a figure, that figure is likely B.S.

30 posted on 07/14/2006 8:04:46 AM PDT by Texas Federalist (True statesmen ... are not defined by what they compromise, but what they don’t.)
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To: xzins
The president has said on a number of occasions that the growth of non-war, non-entitlement, discretionary spending is below the inflation rate.

Entitlement spending already falls under the non-discretionary category. But here's another chart that separates military from non-miltary discretionary spending. I prefer indpendent conservative/libertarian think tanks (Cato in this case) over what the President says.


31 posted on 07/14/2006 8:39:22 AM PDT by BufordP ("I am stuck on Al Franken 'cause Al Franken's stuck on me!" -- Stupid)
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To: xzins
But wait! There's more!
The Grand Old Spending Party: How Republicans Became Big Spenders

by Stephen Slivinski, director of budget studies at the Cato Institute.

Executive Summary

President Bush has presided over the largest overall increase in inflation-adjusted federal spending since Lyndon B. Johnson. Even after excluding spending on defense and homeland security, Bush is still the biggest-spending president in 30 years. His 2006 budget doesn’t cut enough spending to change his place in history, either.

Total government spending grew by 33 percent during Bush’s first term. The federal budget as a share of the economy grew from 18.5 percent of GDP on Clinton’s last day in office to 20.3 percent by the end of Bush’s first term.

The Republican Congress has enthusiastically assisted the budget bloat. Inflation-adjusted spending on the combined budgets of the 101 largest programs they vowed to eliminate in 1995 has grown by 27 percent.

The GOP was once effective at controlling nondefense spending. The final nondefense budgets under Clinton were a combined $57 billion smaller than what he proposed from 1996 to 2001. Under Bush, Congress passed budgets that spent a total of $91 billion more than the president requested for domestic programs. Bush signed every one of those bills during his first term. Even if Congress passes Bush’s new budget exactly as proposed, not a single cabinet-level agency will be smaller than when Bush assumed office.

Republicans could reform the budget rules that stack the deck in favor of more spending. Unfortunately, senior House Republicans are fighting the changes. The GOP establishment in Washington today has become a defender of big government.

Full Text of Policy Analysis no. 543 (PDF, 1 MB)


32 posted on 07/14/2006 8:52:14 AM PDT by BufordP ("I am stuck on Al Franken 'cause Al Franken's stuck on me!" -- Stupid)
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To: Amelia

Ditto


33 posted on 07/14/2006 9:03:14 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: xzins

Oh my gosh where do you start? I'd slash the budget of every department (except defense ) in the Federal Government 10%/year for thee next 10 years. I'd eliminate the department of education ( not just transfer programs somewhere else, close it down). Most of agriculture could go. Just off the top of my head.


34 posted on 07/14/2006 9:03:57 AM PDT by DManA
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To: BufordP

The chart says that more than half of discretionary spending is on defense.


35 posted on 07/14/2006 12:52:29 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: xzins

I understand the necessary increases in defense spending due to the WOT. But you tried to attribute the bulk of the increase on those military expenditures when the chart clearly shows dramatic increases in non-defense as well.


36 posted on 07/14/2006 1:39:27 PM PDT by BufordP ("I am stuck on Al Franken 'cause Al Franken's stuck on me!" -- Stupid)
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To: BufordP

It doesn't matter. The defense is MORE than DOUBLE the non-defense.

The question is this: After taking out ALL the Defense increase and comparing the not-defense increase to the previous non-defense level is the non-defense
% increase ABOVE the inflation rate.


37 posted on 07/14/2006 1:49:47 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: ZULU

I agree, if the GOP follows Rove over the cliff on immigration a lot of people are just going to stay home this November.


38 posted on 07/14/2006 2:01:08 PM PDT by John Lenin (If you are looking for a mind numb robot, I'm not it)
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To: xzins
I don't know where you get "defense is more than double non-defense". If you want to cook the numbers to fit whatever point you're trying to make, be my guess. When you look at this chart (previously posted at #31), focus on the WHITE bar, xzins. You can get a clear visual of how non-defense discretionary spending increased faster (raw dollars) under Bush. You're perfectly welcome to crunch the differences between budget years and compare them to inflation if you wish. I personally think the chart should show a flat-line trend if not a down turn under Republican administrations given Republican congressional majorities. Stupid me!
39 posted on 07/14/2006 2:36:24 PM PDT by BufordP ("I am stuck on Al Franken 'cause Al Franken's stuck on me!" -- Stupid)
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