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Enormous New Dam Fails In Brazil
New Scientist ^ | 7-10-2006

Posted on 07/10/2006 8:15:34 PM PDT by blam

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To: spyone; Howlin

It does, the reservoir drained... either they use a whole lot of water or it hadn't had a lot of time to fill, because there should be a lot more water behind that dam, it sounds like the engineers are downplaying the whole thing. Dams are a part of life in my part of the country and cracks like that would tell us that they didn't cure properly or used sub-standard cement. Curing these dams is very a delicate matter.


81 posted on 07/10/2006 9:27:11 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE; SierraWasp

It looks like the Rivers Foundation of the Americas is a primary funder of both the International River Networks and a group called American Rivers:

http://www.rivernetwork.org/

http://www.amrivers.org/

http://riversfoundation.org/rfa/about/


82 posted on 07/10/2006 9:29:07 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: SierraWasp
We wondered where he was. Last we heard he was off tilting at windmills like trying to destroy the World Bank, or something.

Looks like you heard right. :-)

83 posted on 07/10/2006 9:30:09 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: SierraWasp

Why, thank you, kind sir! :-)


84 posted on 07/10/2006 9:30:46 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: blam; calcowgirl
Hey blam! What'er you lookin for on this "junk science" site dubbed "newscience.com" anyways??? You keep your eye on this site and you're gonna find 'em finding fault with "any disturbance of the soil, air or water!"

This is the science indoctrination site for those whose "Born Again Pagan" belief system tells them "No one can own the air. No one can own the water. No one can own the land." (from the ancient Roman code of Justinian I believe. from which comes the current judicial decisions entitled "The Public Trust Doctrine!")

85 posted on 07/10/2006 9:31:36 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Memo To: Uncle Sam Re: Terrorists, Insurgents and Illegal Combatants...NoUniforms... No Prisoners!!!)
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To: alancarp; martin_fierro; aculeus; dighton; BlueLancer; mhking
Dang, how do you fix THAT?


86 posted on 07/10/2006 9:32:16 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal (As it was in the days of NO...)
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To: blam

We don't have enough dam wise cracks. I mean, the cracks are length wise, but not really wise. Dam. I guess it just cracks me up.


87 posted on 07/10/2006 9:32:43 PM PDT by neutrino (Globalization is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.(173))
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To: calcowgirl

You have caused me to "bookmark" this thread!!!


88 posted on 07/10/2006 9:32:49 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Memo To: Uncle Sam Re: Terrorists, Insurgents and Illegal Combatants...NoUniforms... No Prisoners!!!)
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To: calcowgirl
Wasn't the movie " Deliverance " about a river being damed. Any of these rivernetwork guys in that movie?
89 posted on 07/10/2006 9:35:28 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (Red is good)
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To: SierraWasp
"On top of that, if I'm not mistaken, French is Brazil's official language!!! No wonder!!!"

Actually........that would be Portuguese.

90 posted on 07/10/2006 9:39:37 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: Arizona Carolyn

We don't have many damns like that around here, so I'm not familiar with the process. Thanks for that information, another bit of "matter" I have learned on FR!


91 posted on 07/10/2006 9:40:38 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: rlmorel

The first year I taught pre-k, I sent home a newsletter telling the parents what we did during the week. I put that we read The Little Boy and the Dyke, instead of Dike. Spellcheck recognizes both. Needless to say I had some very concerned parents. Very embarrassing.


92 posted on 07/10/2006 9:47:16 PM PDT by ga medic
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To: ThomasThomas

That movie gave me the creeps.
Some scenes are more memorable than others.
As such, I don't remember anything about a dam.


93 posted on 07/10/2006 9:49:02 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: NonValueAdded

WOW, I read that article.. the Bay Bridge and Golden Gate, you'd think after the big earthquake late in the 80's they would have been all over this. I wouldn't want to be on the Bay bridge in another quake.


94 posted on 07/10/2006 9:50:49 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Howlin
My favorite place on the planet is Lake Powell, in Utah. There is a book called A Story that Stands Like a Dam that tells the whole story on how that dam was constructed (it's a huge dam in slick rock canyons) and how critical the cement used in the construction of the dam was...

It also gives details on how they built Hoover Dam and really explains how they were able to cool the cement to keep the projects moving ahead. It's wierd, but it really fascinates me....

In the Spring of 1983 we had a particularly wet Spring and all out dams started overflowing, they had to open the penstocks to let the water out quickly at Powell (and Mead, and Havasu, etc.) and the water going through the bypass tubes started spitting out dirt and rocks and they did come very close to losing the dam...

It took a couple of years to repair the damage and one thing they did was inject air into the tubes so that in the future (if we ever get rain and fill our lakes again) the water will actually ride on air instead of cavitating and tearing up the cement in the tubes. They say this method has been incorporated in a lot of large dams as a preventative.

I know more info than you wanted

95 posted on 07/10/2006 9:59:19 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: SierraWasp

Could those photos been photo shopped. The picture in the link above doesn't show the destruction???


96 posted on 07/10/2006 10:00:16 PM PDT by tubebender (Some minds are like concrete, thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.)
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To: Southack

If you"re gonna have a poat like that you gotta post pics. It's in the rules don't ya know!


97 posted on 07/10/2006 10:01:27 PM PDT by 31R1O ("Science is organized knowledge. Wisdom is organized life."- Immanuel Kant)
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To: 31R1O

Grr poat=post.


98 posted on 07/10/2006 10:02:03 PM PDT by 31R1O ("Science is organized knowledge. Wisdom is organized life."- Immanuel Kant)
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To: blam

Didn't they discovder cracks in the Three Gorges Dam in China?


99 posted on 07/10/2006 10:02:34 PM PDT by NorseWood
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To: elli1

This is a concrete-faced rock fill dam. It is considered to be the safest kind of dam because even if the concrete liner cracks and leaks, the rocks supporting the liner will not wash away. That's what appears to have happened in this case.

The concrete liner is relatively thin (a couple of feet thick) and easy to repair. But first they need to find out why the tunnels beneath the dam gave way and drained the lake.


100 posted on 07/10/2006 10:06:24 PM PDT by BigBobber
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