Posted on 07/07/2006 10:05:17 PM PDT by freedom44
It takes faith to belive a fable, even though you know it is unprovable and impossible.
We all have a hearty laugh when we read about scientology and its silly stories of Xenu and engrams. But, look at the ark story outside your religion, and think. Its just as silly.
No one here has yet explained what the animals ate, how they got there, how they got home and how a wooden boat could be built large enough without cracking under its own weight.
Ah, so God wants us not to think? Just be little automatons, willfully ignorant of science and reason?
Sounds more like you just want to be an unthinking slave.
I went to the link you posted. There I read the section titled How Accurate Is Radiocarbon Dating? because that is a field I actually know something about.
The article is loaded with the standard creationist nonsense.
Why should I believe any of the rest of Dr. Brown's writing if the one article I can actually judge the accuracy of is so full of errors?
Is he hoping people won't know the difference?
Sorry, another example of creation "science" failing to include real science.
You can't win an argument by explaining away every thing as a miracle. Its a cop out.
You do realize the winning bet in Pascals Wager was Roman Catholicism? All other choices lose
That is where you get sloppy, you have a story and you try to build science to support the story, rather than use the scientific method of discovery.
Sloppy science.
How did the sloth swim back to the amazon?
Oh, yeah, a Miracle!
Was I talking to you?
Yoo were talking to anybody who heard you.
You laughably say that perhaps the animals sensed a disaster and returned when it was over, well what did they eat? Where are the fossil records? How did they swim across the Atlantic and Pacific to get home with no food?
How do we know which continents & oceans were around then? The Bible speaks of the land arising from the water, not lands. How do you know that the oceans' water didn't come from this flood?
No one who keeps their head in the sand...
"You are dead wrong regarding most Christians believing the Genesis story is allegorical."
Actually, I don't think that's the case. The Roman Catholic Church, absolutely the largest denomination of Christianity has said that it does not think the 7-day Genesis account is literally accurate, and accepts evolution as the mechanism of speciation.
Perhaps you don't consider Roman Catholics to be Christians, but that's a big stretch. In addition, most mainstream Protestant churches also teach the allegorical nature of the creation story, and other stories like the noachian flood.
Beliefs vary among Christians regarding the literal acceptance of Old Testament stories, particularly of Genesis.
"How do we know which continents & oceans were around then? The Bible speaks of the land arising from the water, not lands. How do you know that the oceans' water didn't come from this flood?
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When is it that you think the flood occurred? If you answer that question, then I can answer yours.
Ah. Of course it's not "proof" that they didn't find the Ark. I do, however, have an opinion on what it is. See post #47
How do we know?
Science!
We know about continental drift and where the landmasses were millions of years ago. Of course, lots of ark believers think the earth is 5000 years old.
You ark folk are bending over backwards with unprovable theories, a bunch of "perhaps" and "maybe" and other mental gymnastics because you are beginning realize that the ark story was a fable, but you still want to believe, like a child trying to rationalize Santa Claus.
I never claimed to be "creationist"...I'm fankly surprised at the anti religious retoric so willingly dished out by a few...
How about you save you hatred for the jihadists eh?
You know...the people who cut yer head off for non belief...
All of this would be visible in the remains.
It is hilarious that educated people can act so ignorantly.
However I would believe that it was Noah's Ark if there were better identification such as: a Liberian registration number, a Carnival Cruise brochure, a flag of any kind (including semaphore), the letters HMS NOAH inscribed anywhere, a recovered cannon, amphora bottles......
I believe that God wants me to be wise enough to know that some words of man are fallible and need interpretation. Especially stories repeated by hearsay for thousands of years.
If those words are inconsistent with logic and cause me to doubt my faith in God then those words should be doubted instead, perhaps ignored, perhaps understood in the historical light of those who wrote them.
Even the ten commandments forbid me from stealing my neighbors ass, but say nothing about stealing his Lincoln Navigator. Oh well, I can't afford the gas anyway.
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