Posted on 07/07/2006 1:37:25 PM PDT by Abathar
Does this mean manually counting votes is a hand job? (Sorry, couldn't resist.)
Is this what we can expect around the country in November?
Did these Diebold machines produce a paper trail?
Did these Diebold machines produce a paper trail?
They used Diebold in the Utah primary last week and colorcountry said they do have a paper trail.
It wouldn't surprise me that they a searching for a means to get rid of electronic voting. If they get back to paper that means they can always produce the "lost" box of ballots after the fact.
Perhaps she is applying for the recount supporting the Republican to not look suspiscious.
They need Paper Ballots and Photo ID less multiple voting capability.
California has excellent laws regarding recounts. The person requesting the recount has to pay the cost, unless the recount overturns the result. The person paying for the recount can start with any precincts and count them in any order preferred, and can stop the recount at any point (and thus stop paying for the ongoing cost). But in order to overturn the result, all votes must be recounted. If the person paying for the recount decides to give up, and prematurely stops the recount, then the official results revert to the original pre-recount totals.
I had a fun experience in 2000 (at the same time the Florida hoopla was going on) when a friend of mine won a surprise victory to the local park board in Simi Valley by a mere 3 votes out of about 95 thousand cast. The loser demanded a recount, at a cost of about $1200 a day. Each side had observers (I was one of them) carefully monitoring the manual recount process, which was very done in a very fair and careful manner. There was very little change in the results, but of course it didn't take much when the margin was that small. After five days of recounting, my friend's lead had grown to five votes. At that point the loser threw in the towel.
If Bilbray had beaten Busby by only twenty or thirty votes, I'd say that a recount would make a lot of sense. Random fluctuations or errors could easily exceed that amount. But given the actual vote margin, the probability of a recount changing the outcome is a very good approximation of zero.
Let the woman waste her money. Or more accurately, let her scam gullible contributors out of their money so that she can build up a donor list of suckers.
If they can get rid of Evil Diebold tamper proof machines, then it's back to generating paper ballots while having a potluck and watching Oprah.
"As California state election code requires that a candidate be named on whose behalf such hand count requests are filed, Jacobson named Republican Brian Bilbray in her filing. Bilbray is the candidate who was announced as the winner in the race by SD County Registrar Mikel Haas."
Yeah, right. What a moron. She thinks other morons are taken in by a race that wasnt even close and she's doing it for Bilbray. what a frickin joke.
yes...
Diebold's security requirements for the machines were broken. Chain of custody laws were broken. It really doesn't matter which or what corporation built and programmed a voting machine if the chain of custody was broken so severely for so many days.
This is a justified demand for a recount.
On that note, Diebold must be thoroughly maddened that their machine was made unsecure by human actions after the company has spent untold millions trying to build a brand name for themselves in the budding industry of electronic voting machines.
Nothing to gloat about here, Bilbray is a RINO of the first order, broke a campaign pledge in his first week in office, and probably will have a tight reelection in Nov because of the pledge breaking.
Thank you, colorcountry. I knew you would have an intelligent response.
Yes, if it is even close. Especially if we keep the house and senate, the left is going to go ballistic over that. The far left keeps getting its hopes up on polling done on the coasts, and the fly over states just don't go their way. A poll done in NY is meaningless to a poll done in OH or IN, but the left just can't understand that for some reason. There will be probably a dozen contested results in November, and if its a Diebold machine count the left will automatically assume it was false if they lost and not if they won.
aka Kerry and Ohio.
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