But I'm Still Right About Pence's Plan

Human Events Online ^ | 9 June 2006 | Mac Johnson

[AppleButter]

The common wisdom is that Congress needs to "do something" about illegal immigration. But instead of passing another law, how about we enforce the laws we already have?

[TheDon]

As the debate over late-term abortion shows, it is sometimes important to kill things quickly, lest they take on a life all their own.

Ouch!

[claudiustg]

---But instead of passing another law, how about we enforce the laws we already have?---

We're getting more cheap foreign workers, legal, illegal, whatever. That's the only thing our leadership is into enforcing.

[sinkspur]

Pence, Bush, McCain, and Gingrich are in the process of dividing the House GOP and marginalizing the fringers.

The fringers, of course, are the hard-liner Tancredoites.

[skeeter]

Pence, Bush, McCain, and Gingrich are in the process of dividing the House GOP and marginalizing the fringers.

With a 23 seat majority and a half dozen "republicans" who vote reliably with the opposition I doubt they would be so stupid.

However, I do believe they are trying to finesse the issue to squeeze it past a skeptical majority conservative base and should be watched very closely.

[Rakkasan1]

sounds familiar:

The philosophy of 'gun control': Teenagers are roaring through town at 90 MPH, where the speed limit is 25. Your solution is to lower the speed limit to 20.

[jmc813]

Pence, Bush, McCain, and Gingrich are in the process of dividing the House GOP and marginalizing the fringers. The fringers, of course, are the hard-liner Tancredoites.

You guys were calling Pence a "fringer" when he was constantly grilling Bush on his piss poor performance when it comes to spending, and when this is over y'all will go back to disliking him.

[Kenny Bunkport]

Don't you mean "unifying the House GOP," and marginalizing the fringers?

[sinkspur]

With a 23 seat majority and a half dozen "republicans" who vote reliably with the opposition I doubt they would be so stupid.

It's a 15 seat majority, effectively, and the tide is turning toward the Pence plan.

When Frist gets on board, Boehner and Hastert will as well.

[sinkspur]

The House will be unified when the fringers are fringed.

[sinkspur]

Do you support the Pence plan? If you do, then think about the irony of your position vis-a-vis mine.

[Kenny Bunkport]

When Frist gets on board, Boehner and Hastert will as well.

Not that this will silence the congenital bellyachers.

[longtermmemmory]

the MEME is that they need to do something.

This "need"

was BS'ed from the absolute need to build the fence on the border. McCain and Kenedy usurped border security in order to UNDO the republican lead immigration reform of 1996.

The 1996 reform which made it MUCH HARDER for illegals to whitewash themselves into legal status.

[jmc813]

Do you support the Pence plan?

I don't mind it. I'd prefer the House bill. However, I'd rather see no bill than the Senate Bill, but I could livew with the Pence compromise. There is a lot of misinformation going around FR about it.

[sinkspur]

I can support Pence as well. If you and I can come together on the Pence plan, those who can't would seem to be extremists, to me.

[taxed2death]

"The fringers, of course, are the hard-liner Tancredoites."

Nice try at "Push faux journalism" there amigo......

Hahahah the "fringers" are hard liner conservatives who believe in the rule of law.

Where do you stand on this?

Are you ready for 16,000,000 instant Dum-o-crats Sinkster?

Your open border, illegal apologist mentality is showing...........

[BigSkyFreeper]

Pence, Bush, McCain, and Gingrich are in the process of dividing the House GOP and marginalizing the fringers.

Yep. Separating the wheat from the chaff as it were. It's been a long time coming.

[AppleButter]

I don't mind it. I'd prefer the House bill. However, I'd rather see no bill than the Senate Bill, but I could livew with the Pence compromise.

Senate bill rewards illegals for breaking into our country; Pence rewards illegals for breaking into our country.

Senate bill drives down wages; Pence drives down wages.

Senate bill is logistically unworkable and ripe for fraud; Pence's proposal is unworkable and ripe for fraud.

Senate bill would expand the population by millions; Pence will expand the population by millions.

WHERE IS THE COMPROMISE?

[BigSkyFreeper]

A simple "I'm against it!" would have sufficed. It would have still be devoid of facts.