'Contradictions, Lies, and Exaggerations' in Number Killed in 'Jewish Holocaust'

Insane with hatred Muslims ^ | 7/4/06

[TSchmereL]

What a sick man, Finkelstein.

[popdonnelly]

Utter nonsense. The Nazi policy of exterminating Jews has been so well documented, there is no room for argument. The Nazi regime itself kept extensive documentation of what it was doing. What happened to the Jews of Europe? How is it that 90% of the Polish Jewish population disappeared? The answer to these questions are well known. The Germans went so far as to put Jewish American prisoners of war in labor camps.

[Clintonfatigued]

Very well-stated.

[Mike Darancette]

The actual numbers do little to add to the enormity of the crime.

[goldstategop]

Exactly. No event has more rigorously documented and to which there was living eyewitness testimony than the Holocaust. To have to dismiss all this irrefutable and factual evidence is akin to saying no evidence in any form will convince people who deny it that is true. So it is a waste of time arguing with anti-Semites about its authenticity since as Burt Prelutsky once memorably phrased it, its the equivalent of debating the shape of the earth with flat earthers. Kooks and cranks are not people who need to be told the truth about history; no - they need to be locked up in an asylum so no one else can fall victim to their artful lies.

(The Palestinian terrorist regime is the crisis and Israel's fist is the answer.)

[T.L.Sink]

In the Dec. '05 issue of Commentary magazine there was a review of Gunter Levy's book on the 1914-15 Armenian catastrophe in which some three-quarters of a million were slaughtered.

The opening line in the article is THIS: "The term "genocide", coined in 1944 by the Polish-Jewish emigre lawyer Raphael Lemkin, was meant to describe Hitler's then-on-going campaign to exterminate the Jews of Europe."

IS THAT SETTLED? Having said that, the absurdity of those who choose to deny the holocaust is beyond rational comprehension. Those people probably still believe in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion!! Beyond help!

[DJ MacWoW]

IS THAT SETTLED?

Where did anyone dispute terminology?

[peeps36]

The average Holocaust denier is a scumbag who supports the palestinians.

[Quix]

GRRRRR.

I think I'd better stop there.

I really hate seeing such idiocy about such a horrendous event in the history of the children of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

[FreedomPoster]

comprehensive state-organized mass murder.

Rummel uses the term "Democide". His web site is often useful, typically for throwing in the face of lefties.

[Pharmboy]

There were about 535,000 Jews in Germany in 1935. I do not know how many left before it got really bad for them (the Nazis warned the Jews and their families who had been veterans of WWI to leave and some rich and well connected ones bought their way out). After 1938, I believe it was pretty hard for them to get out.

The bulk of the Jews that died at the hands of the Nazis came from Poland where over 3 million lived. The most common estimate that I've seen is 2.5 million dead. But also remember that the Nazis slaughtered about 1.5 million Catholic Poles as well (a part of the story that is often overlooked).

The rest of the murdered Jewish civilians came from the Ukraine, Latvia, Lithuania, Hungary, France, Italy and the Balkan States.

[gondramB]

>>In his interview, Finkelstein stated that the number of the Jewish survivors from the Holocaust had been grossly inflated by the "Holocaust industry" in order to blackmail Europe.<<

Why would it benefit Jews to inflate the number of suvivors?

Is that backwards? Actually I guess we should not expect these people to make sense.

[goldstategop]

So the Jews can collect more money per survivor?? Ahh, now we're on the oldest anti-Semitic trope. The Jewish love of money. What has been paid in compensation to Israel and survivors does not come close to making the Jewish people whole. You can't put monetary value on human lives destroyed, which by definition are irreplaceable. But don't expect Finkelstein to bring that up the next time he rants about the alleged nefarious doings of the "Holocaust industry."

(The Palestinian terrorist regime is the crisis and Israel's fist is the answer.)

[gondramB]

>>So the Jews can collect more money per survivor?? Ahh, now we're on the oldest anti-Semitic trope. The Jewish love of money. What has been paid in compensation to Israel and survivors does not come close to making the Jewish people whole. You can't put monetary value on human lives destroyed, which by definition are irreplaceable. But don't expect Finkelstein to bring that up the next time he rants about the alleged nefarious doings of the "Holocaust industry."<<

Jeez... slightly sicker than I gave them credit for.

[William Terrell]

Wouldn't the Third Retch have kept records?

[gondramB]

>>Wouldn't the Third Retch have kept records? <<

That's one of the principle sources. One common trait of bootlicking facists who think they will rule for a thousand years is meticulous record keeping. Like any other source they have biases though.

[Pharmboy]

It is my understanding that significant sourcing for the fate of the Jews comes just from that--the Nazis were very good record keepers. They did use euphemisms for extermination, such as "relocated." I am certainly no scholar on this. The only book I have ever read on Jews in WWII was a most interesting one by the name of "Stella" written by a Berlin Jew about the thousands of Jews like him kept in Berlin to work there. Stella was a beautiful Jewess married to an SS man who became a Jew-catcher for the Reich. The most fascinating take away for me was that this group of sophisticated Jews as late 1944 did NOT know that their relatives and friends were being executed.

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[Convert from ECUSA]

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[SJackson]

The opening line in the article is THIS: "The term "genocide", coined in 1944 by the Polish-Jewish emigre lawyer Raphael Lemkin, was meant to describe Hitler's then-on-going campaign to exterminate the Jews of Europe."

Lemkin certainly considered the Turks actions in Armenia genocide, it provided the direction of this career. He coined the term as a unique replacement for his proposed crime of Acts of Barbarity, an international offense he first proposed in 1933. Ironically the European community was having a problem defining terrorism at the time.