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Economy Gets No Respect
Courant.com ^ | 07/04/06 | MARK J. PERRY

Posted on 07/04/2006 9:28:05 AM PDT by Abathar

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To: RedStateRocker
I guess there are places in the US where it's still 1977 and it's still hard to get a well-paying job. You have four alternatives:

1. You can move to a place where there is functionally zero unemployment. Washington DC and the northern Virginia suburbs of DC is such a place. Employers are desperate. They'll hire chimps, with or without a clearance.

2. You can change your job skills so that you have skills that are in demand where you live.

3. You can start your own business.

4. You can continue whining about how tough it is, lose your job, go on unemployment until that runs out, and move in with your mom.

Responsible adults usually choose 1,2, or 3 unless they suffer a life-threatening illness and truly cannot support themselves. But whining about how tough it is rarely helps bring in money.

21 posted on 07/04/2006 11:03:24 AM PDT by Fairview
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To: Fairview
But whining about how tough it is rarely helps bring in money.

Liberal democrat "journalists" have made a pretty good living doing just that at least as long as there is a host to be a parasite off.

22 posted on 07/04/2006 11:17:44 AM PDT by CzarNicky (In the magical land of unicorns there's no need for clothes.)
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To: RedStateRocker

I think I would get new friends and consider moving to where there are more and better jobs. This happens in a market economy. Only in a command economy like the Soviet Union is one guaranteed a job and complete security from cradle to grave.


23 posted on 07/04/2006 12:13:29 PM PDT by RichardW
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To: RichardW
Only in a command economy like the Soviet Union is one guaranteed a job and complete security from cradle to grave.

Cuba is closer. And has nicer weather.

24 posted on 07/04/2006 12:17:15 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: RichardW; Toddsterpatriot; RedStateRocker
"the economy sucks right now...  ... as much as I might have disliked Clinton EVERYBODY I knew not only had a job then but could get another one in a time frame measured in hours."

That statement, plus the fact that you don't care about what the stats say about everyone else, tells us that you and your friends were either working for the New York Times or the Democratic National Committee. 

When y'all say to each other that it's the worst economy since Hoover, that's one thing.  When you try and pull that line on a forum like this one you've got to know that you're sounding like a full blown looney-toon.

25 posted on 07/04/2006 12:59:36 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: sick1; All

My contract just ended, I'm still getting calls and I'm looking for a new job besides Illinois..


26 posted on 07/04/2006 1:01:55 PM PDT by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: CzarNicky

Fortunately or unfortunately, we can't all be journalists.


27 posted on 07/04/2006 1:31:16 PM PDT by Fairview
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To: Abathar
Economy Gets No Respect

And as long as George Bush is President it won't get any respect from the left and the uber-right (so far right they're coming up on the left).

28 posted on 07/04/2006 1:33:36 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: RedStateRocker
No wonder your job is in danger...LOL

You haven't a clue; go buy some. The last few years of the 20th century were NOT the "high point of our economy"! And you and your "friends" are NOT the only ones living/the exemplars of how our economy really is. But the DOW, unemployment figures, GDP, and a lot of other indicators are!

29 posted on 07/04/2006 1:57:04 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: 1rudeboy
And a HAPPY FOURTH TO YOU!

We're having a TERRIBLE storm...so the BBQ/party I was invited to got rained out; as did the fireworks tonight. :-(

30 posted on 07/04/2006 2:00:22 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
I got your clue right here. Please tell me of another time (in this galaxy, not yours) where employers were pretty much begging for help. I keep hearing that the economy is going great guns but I really see no evidence of it. I trust the DOW, the GDP and any economic figures released by a government entity exactly as much as I trust the New York Times's reporting on Iraq. The only criteria that matter are those in front of our eyes, statistics mean nothing


The reason I have a job is that I have *ALWAYS* been willing to do anything, any job at all. Sure, the economy is going great guns if you aspiration is to be a dishwasher.
31 posted on 07/04/2006 2:43:18 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
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To: expat_panama
Well, it's the worst economy *I* remember. I'm 44 and so my basis for comparison goes from about 1970 to the present. The last few years are the only time besides 1977-1981 that I couldn't find a decent paying job quickly. Currently employed precisely because I have kept my job skills up, but have watched everybody who hasn't fall by the wayside, and I don't like it. The ratio of what a person can earn, be they high skilled or just starting out, to what it costs to LIVE is lousy.
Maybe it always has been and the bubble is just starting to burst where I live.
Fairview - Virginia/DC seems like an interesting idea, thanks for the tip Fairview. Sorry to whine but out of six friends who were working at the beginning of this year, in four different fields, I'm the last one employed, and only because I've been taking classes for five of the last six years. It'd be nice to have a life outside of continuous studying - running to stay in place.
32 posted on 07/04/2006 2:58:39 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
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To: RedStateRocker
So you can't be bothered with facts or statistics, instead preferring to trust what you see with your own eyes. Fair enough. Now I'm curious to learn where you live so that I can determine why you feel the way you do.

Because I've gotta' tell you, if you think this economy is only good for people who aspire to be dishwashers, then . . . let me just repeat I'd like to know where you live so that I can take a look at one of those online job websites to see if what you say is true.

33 posted on 07/04/2006 3:01:47 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: RedStateRocker; nopardons
I keep hearing that the economy is going great guns but I really see no evidence of it. I trust the DOW, the GDP and any economic figures released by a government entity exactly as much as I trust the New York Times's reporting on Iraq. The only criteria that matter are those in front of our eyes, statistics mean nothing

Got it. 144,000,000 jobs don't count, just the one you don't have. LOL!

34 posted on 07/04/2006 3:38:17 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: RedStateRocker
You and your close friends are a real human beings, and your struggles are not just a statistics. 

There are hundreds of millions of other American workers like us who are also very real.  Ordinarily, those of us who've read your posts wouldn't have anything personal against y'all, but the fact that you're considering us just a bunch of nameless statistics (and you don't give a rip what *ANY* statistics say"), sure doesn't make it very easy for us to give a dingle dong about your problems.

35 posted on 07/04/2006 3:41:22 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: RedStateRocker
My heartiest congratulations on being the center of the universe and the ONLY one who counts, where this nation and history and economy is concerned. /Huge amount of sarcasm

No wonder you talk about YOUR GALAXY and completely discount the one in which I reside. You live in a perpetual state of delusion and self centered, petulant childhood; where history only begins when you enter the job market and only you and the very paltry of people you know, matter. OTOH, I live in the real world.

Gee, according to your rules, there was NO recession during the Carter and early Reagan years, because my family and the 100s of people we knew, were all making money hand over fist ! Nobody else counted...right? LOL

My grandparents and great grandparents didn't have any money in the market ( they'd all gotten out of it several months earlier ) in Oct. of '29, so gee....I guess there was NO crash and nobody lost a dime, back then. Right? ROTFLMSO

Dishwasher? Is that what your prospects are?

You keep playing the victim, poor-mouthing, whinging, and yelling me, me, me, MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

GROW UP !

There are lots of good paying jobs out, all over this nation. If your friends can't get one, perhaps the fault lies within themselves.

People used to work six days a week. Then it was cut back to 5 1/2, and then, five. Everyone has ALWAYS needed to "keep up" with current knowledge and skills.

Instead of lying in a fetal position, sucking your thumb, and crying like a 44 year old baby about how everything is just so rotten, get off the computer and be a man.

36 posted on 07/04/2006 4:20:36 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Have you ever heard such unadulterated piffle? LOL


37 posted on 07/04/2006 4:22:30 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Maybe on DU. He could be Willie Green. Slinking back to spread doom and gloom.


38 posted on 07/04/2006 4:36:00 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
I've never been to DU; I only know their posts, from reading the DUmmie FUnnies here. :-)

Oh come on......even poor old Willie Green wasn't ever THIS much of a damned baby.

39 posted on 07/04/2006 4:40:52 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: RedStateRocker

You got several replies asking where you lived and your typical job function but you have not replied. While some responses were testy, others were calm and showed a willingness to help given some information. I can understand if you do not want to accept generalities like the DOW, GDP ... but don't expect people to take your generalities seriously either. For your post to have any real punch, disclose your state and general metro-area if you will and your industry/job function. If you'd like to be extra helpful, disclose the industry/job function of your friends who lost their jobs. There are plenty of good right-thinking people here who would help you with pointers or actual job postings if you'd move beyond the general.


40 posted on 07/05/2006 5:45:05 AM PDT by sick1 (Don't fear the freeper)
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