Schwarzenegger ripped as 'part of the problem' (Tom Tancredo attacks California governor...)

My effort here is to remind folks that voting for a liberal wil not help to advance the conservative agenda and the GOP platform. Conservatives don't vote for liberals. Period.

If we in California followed that advice so strictly, then Angelides is the sure victor in the next election. Have you any idea what that would mean? Do have any idea of the damage this man will do to the state in the next four years?

Here are the items he will advance if Arnold is defeated:

Drivers' licenses for illegals
Socialization of health care for Mexifornia (one 7th of the nation)
Increased taxes on business and higher income brackets
Destruction of Prop 13 and increased property taxes
Reduced border controls and no fence (even greater than Arnold)
Possible forced instruction of the gay agenda in all schools, including parochial schools, ie. Caltholic and Jewish
Complete give-away to the teachers unions
Reinstatement of higher car taxes
Higher gas taxes

Arnold is not the person I would choose first, but if I accepted your premise, I would get hammered on all of these issues.

When Reagan won in California, the climate was nothing like it is now. California was still a reliably Republican stronghold. It is now exactly the opposite. You have no idea what kind of treachery is going on in Sacramento these days. Arnold was forced to make a 180 in his public perception because he was getting clobbered in the polls.

Your statement is incorrect. I do NOT attack McClintock.

It is becoming clearer and clearer that McClintock only cares about destroying the Republican party and California, hardly commendable objectives.
34 posted on 09/28/2003 5:44:58 PM EDT by FairOpinion

No, Tom could stand up and say he is not going to take money under false pretenses. But he really wants to see Bustamante elected, by his own words. How can any conservatives keep supporting him, after all the truth is coming out about him, is beyond me. I used to have respect for him and like him, except that this time he just couldn't win. But the more I find out, the more obvious it is that Tom is just using his conservative credentials for an ego trip.
15 posted on 09/27/2003 6:17:56 PM EDT by FairOpinion

That was my point exactly. Tom only cares about Tom, never mind promises, decency, party, the wellbeing of CA, etc.
19 posted on 09/24/2003 12:56:35 PM EDT by FairOpinion

I have friends and former business acquaintences who live and work in California. My heart goes out to them, especially my conservative brethren. You guys in the Golden State are in a bad state of affairs, however, you only have yourselves to blame. You allowed liberalism to creep into your state government, until it had a stranglehold on statewide operations.

In 2003 you guys blew a great opportunity to elect a real Reagan conservative as your next governor. That would be Tom McClintock. Instead, a Hollyweird moviestar stepped forward and everyone went gaga. After Ahnold sucked all the GOP support up, there was very little left for conservatives to hope for. Now your whining that if you sent Schwarzy backing and chose a solid conservative candidate, you'd be in worse shape then you are today under the liberal "Govinator".

You guys have a serious internal problem and really need to start rebuilding the GOP state party. One that follows the conservative agenda, and doesn't support liberal candidates. Schwarzy has had some limited success, but its all been on the political margins. BFD. After witnessing first hand the failed leadership of Gray Davis, I believe many independent voters in California would be receptive to having a conservative Republican lead the state government.

Check out post #122 on this thread and you'll see one example of why the GOP is in such trouble in California.

Now your whining that if you sent Schwarzy backing and chose a solid conservative candidate, you'd be in worse shape then you are today under the liberal "Govinator

There were lots of us who wanted McClintock and lost. There are a lot of us who promoted Simon against Gray Davis. Before Simon, Dan Lundgren ran. Lundgren ran a la Reagan, lower taxes- Pro Life- Pro family- and both Lundgren and Simons got their heads handed to them.

Once again, I will explain what I wrote:

There is no other choice here. We have done it the "Reagan way" here in Mexifornia and have had our rearends kicked and kicked hard. McClintock is no longer a choice, he was told by his party that it was not his time. He is running for Lt. Gov. now. What is going on here is a form of subversion. There is no other explanation for it.

After witnessing first hand the failed leadership of Gray Davis, I believe many independent voters in California would be receptive to having a conservative Republican lead the state government.

Maybe, but when? Our choices have been made for us in the next election. It is Arnold, or Stalin. That's it. Who would you choose?

I was born and raised in NYCity. In the 50`s and 60`s Brooklyn had its share of liberals, conservatives and moderates, but it was a great place to grow up in. I wouldn't trade my 23 years there for anything. Always something to do, always somewhere to go and always interesting people to meet. We had the ocean, beaches, boating, fishing, the mountains were close by, and of course the culture of Manhattan and the city that never slept. When the city started to change for the worse around the mid 1970`s, I had to make a decision. After I finished college, I moved to Colorado and never looked back. Sometimes life throws you a curve ball and you've got to make the best of it.

We've kicked this around enough.

Best of luck.

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