Posted on 07/04/2006 4:57:26 AM PDT by radar101
The Oneida Indians (who had only recently adopted the remaining Mohican Indians into their nation) allied themselves with the 14 colonies against the British and the other Iriquois tribes.
The Circle was broken, the council fires covered, and it was the end of the Iriquoian coprosperity sphere.
The Oneida/Mohican group WON. Then, the State of New York, in connivance with tens of thousands of illegal aliens, stole their land.
What they did was declare the Oneida to be "white people", and since "white people" couldn't own Indian land in New York, they took their land away from them.
A remnant of the Oneida identified under the "Munsee Band" (composed mostly of Stockbridge from Massachusetts, and Mohican from Hudson River communities, e.g. Schodack) live on the shores of Lake Winnebago. They operate a casino or two between there and Green Bay, WI.
Another band of Oneida managed to create Turning Stone Casino/Resort at Verona, NY. They are using the revenues to repurchase the lands stolen from them by the State of New York.
After two centuries of being treated quite brutally by their American allies, the Oneida/Mohican are finally in a position to get back their heritage.
In South Carolina, the Crown continued to send in new settlers throughout the Revolution in a reprise of the technique the Crown had used to push back the Spanish a century before.
In short, many of the "new settlers" were actually hired terrorists.
What you are forgetting is that this was a war, not some sort of "crime wave". People had only a few tools to defend themselves and they used them.
Confusion over definitions always leads to misunderstandings. Leftists are always trying to obfuscate and confuse by revising the meanings of words to their advantage. (I'm not implying you are a leftist. Unfortunately conservatives tend to use definitions invented by the left).
So what is a liberal, classical liberal, progressive or conservative? And how does it relate to the word "loyalist" in this articles context?
Tories and Loyalists are the modern day equivalent of today's "elitists" and their clients. As embodied by the John Kerrys, Warren Buffetts, Hollywood big shots, various liberal snobs of the world and their non elitist clients. Clients of the elitists are for instance: Jesse Jackson, his followers, the NEA and big labor union leadership who have a financial interest in the status quo. i.e. "dictionary conservatives".
They have nothing in common with modern day "conservatives". Today's definition of the term "conservative" used in the context of a political "type" is equivalent to yesterday's "liberal". But since the "left" (modern day totalitarians) hijacked the good word for their own nefarious purposes we've had to use the term "conservative" meaning "classical liberal". Our founding fathers were "classical liberals".
Or another way of looking at it is that we tried to "conserve" yesterday's liberal (classical) traditions.
See link below
My relatives in the Maryland 400 were pretty typical of their times ~ and it wasn't at the top, and it wasn't at the bottom.
My relatives/ancestors in the various regiments raised in NY lived well before the war, but in the end the Brits stole all their farm equipment. Took them 20 years to get reimbursed for that. They lost 70% of their family members as well. Still, these guys were walking around with their own firearms, owned horses, could freely hunt the land everywhere to the West (beyond the Allegheny), and were far from starving to death.
In winning the American Revolution the former Colonists moved rapidly into the Ohio Valley and around the Great Lakes ~ their descendants still aren't poor dirt farmers.
They were cowards, the same cowards that we have here today. Weak, small minded people who can't see beyond their own soft lives, who care nothing for others or for how the world really is.
You're demonstrating a lack of understanding that's breathtaking. Yes Clinton's roots are Jacksonian and he is apparently of Scot Irish descent as was John Wayne, Ronald Reagan, Ulysses S. Grant, Andrew Jackson and Dolly Parton. To name just a few.
You are taking an anecdotal data point (Clinton the uncouth grifter) and extrapolating it to the whole of Jacksonian democrats. Not good.
You've inadvertently made my point. Many Jacksonians were indeed considered uncouth by the elitists and were looked down on. They were largely uneducated back woodsmen and farmers during the founding of this nation. They were a rough bunch no doubt. Liberals refer to their descendants as "rednecks". They fought in all our wars and did most of the bleeding. They were, with few exceptions, the "common man" not like the Torys or Loyalists the article refers to..
Many of the Reagan democrats were indeed Jacksonian. But it is not necessary to be uncouth and uneducated to be a Jacksonian. And converesely it is not necesary to be of good morals and virtue to be an elitist.
You are correct. We're the losers now, because all of these casinos are opening up.
Gad!!!!
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