Posted on 07/03/2006 11:09:51 PM PDT by Marius3188
Who ever said doing something the right way was easy.
To have an entire workforce based on a false premise(Illegal Immigrants) is silly.
This is good, but once employers realize this is an election year, "round up the usual suspects" gambit, it will be back to business as usual.
"To have an entire workforce based on a false premise(Illegal Immigrants) is silly"
Recently someone posted an article about how California winemakers may lose market to other countries if illegals keep getting harassed.
A thought occurred to me that I may start mentioning a lot, if you depend on an illegal foreign workforce to maximize your income, then chances are you are pretty wealthy.
Think about it, the media may have never interviewed the individual Americans that are fighting these foreigners for jobs and housing.
The media always goes to the plant owner, the commercial farmer, the management of a construction conglomerate, and reports their tale of woe.
When I'm talking to a guy that says but if I hire the local citizens it will increase my annual labor costs by a percentage, my reaction is that he isn't a real business man, no matter how rich he is, he is padding his false figures by illegal, under the table practices.
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El Wrongo! Enforcing immigration laws against ILLEGAL ALIENS.
What do you think the plantation owner's arguments were about the rising price of cotton? ;)
The Invisible Hand always works, like the tide.
Junk minimum wage and pool stuff like Workers Comp into the private sector.
The status quo is madness.
"What do you think the plantation owner's arguments were about the rising price of cotton? ;)"
Something like " can you imagine what that would do to my profit margin?"
Why I would die, it would mean a lesser gross for me in the end.
If we were playing at a flat table, our ideas would square up entirely. Unfortunately, the evil, faceless, amorphous (sarcasm) agribusiness lobby gets things like tariffs and import quotas while simultaneously complaining about "having" to hire illegals.
It's contemporary farm policy, which affects a lot of Washington DC. Think of the average school district, for instance.
Are you telling me that the laborer that holds the 2 X 6 across his knee and slams the circular saw across it isn't going to actually get the 30° angle at 5 feet, 6 and 3/4 inches?
Our local news had a segment tonight on a whining peach grower who had just half the "immigrants" as last year to pick his crop. Of course, the interviewer babe never asked him if he had raised his wages to attract more pickers.
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Same thing happens here in Central Wa at the many apple orchards. Damnedest thing is that the wages aren't exactly bad, though they're seasonal: they start at something like $12/hr and provide room and board. I'd have taken that over my summers in college - but, unfortunately, English-speakers (anecdote - not a blanket judgment) tend to get harrassed out of the jobs, from what I've heard.
"I'd have taken that over my summers in college - but, unfortunately, English-speakers (anecdote - not a blanket judgment) tend to get harrassed out of the jobs, from what I've heard. "
I was going to write a detailed answer but this is easier.
Find out where your local illegal bar is, go there and have a few beers(if they serve you), Most of the guys on the INTERNET don't have the courage to do that, what they will find is a violent knife culture, men a few years older and a little more worldly than the young Americans that used to perform their jobs.
If anyone is brave enough to try this , try to make it an hour, well, the vibe you feel is what happens on the job site after the numbers shift, to where they don't have to play nice anymore.
The average 20 year old American is not ready to compete with a 25 year old man that had the balls to smuggle himself into the richest most powerful country on earth, and that has the type of mind that makes him comfortable dealing with challenges most of us only see in movies, like purchasing forged federal documents and living under an assumed name, always being prepared to jump out of the vehicle and flee for the border.
In time they figure out how to buy homes ,circumvent the tax system, raise families with all the health care and education, all while living undercover.
These people are just a little more than really sweet peasants, hoping to pick your tomatoes and then return to their village after they get their deposit back on their apartment in Chicago.
Gotta watch out for those violent knives. They are first cousins to those guns that go on rampages.
Ah, but the market is like the force of gravity! Nothing dare get in its way!
Yuppers, one of those self-shooting shotguns killed a minister in TN while his wife was absent-mindedly holding it!
"Gotta watch out for those violent knives. They are first cousins to those guns that go on rampages."
I'm not very good at punctuation , nor proof reading, but until the PC thing took hold, everybody has always known Mexico is a knife culture.
Talk to a guy over say 60 and ask him, has anyone thought of Mexico as a knife culture.
Whenever we hear of trouble in Mexico, it's cram full of guns. Nobody cares about the knives anymore.
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