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ex-GI accused of Iraq rape, murder from same platoon as 2 GI's who were kidnapped, mutilated
AOL News ^ | 07/02/05 | TIM WHITMIRE

Posted on 07/03/2006 3:46:35 PM PDT by motife

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To: KantianBurke

Maybe not as bad, but the Marines probably have the same problem.


41 posted on 07/03/2006 4:51:30 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: motife
The telling of the tale just doesn't sound right.

Vocabulary not quite right. Where would they have gotten flammable material to burn the body?

Just something not fitting here.

42 posted on 07/03/2006 4:56:04 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: leadpenny

Suskind is not to be believed on any count. Not one precent of his words can be taken as truth. Just my opinion. He hates this President and everyone in his administration.


43 posted on 07/03/2006 5:01:17 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: motife

Since when is an AK-47 a "submachine gun"?


44 posted on 07/03/2006 5:02:49 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: OldFriend

He did have the crowd at Politics & Prose Bookstore (enemy territory in NW DC) collectively peeing down their legs. Very entertaining fellow though. A poetic chap.


45 posted on 07/03/2006 5:05:12 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: sinkspur
but it is one of the traits of those who have called the 15 year old who was raped a "whore,"

You had better come up with better facts than that. I have seen articles that say she was 15, 20 and 25 and don't imply I have traits like those who have called her a whore or have said her own family killed her.

I call some of the media liars which is probably too strong a term but there have been retractions made and it is evident to me that much of the media are anti military.

I have not called you or anyone else unpatriotic that seem to take the side of the media and are too quick to deny the presumption of innocence.

46 posted on 07/03/2006 5:07:12 PM PDT by jazusamo (DIANA IREY for Congress, PA 12th District: Retire murtha.)
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To: sinkspur

I think this situation may well to turn out to be horrible as it sounds. The witnesses here don't seem to come from a suspect "human rights" group as in Haditha. Instead it looks like other soldiers came forward. And the Army had already gotten rid of the one person who's been arrested for "personality disorder" which sounds like code for out-of-control psycho. The four Iraqis who were terrorized here, the young woman raped and the whole family killed (per the reporting) deserve justice and I hope they get it. I'm fairly sure pretty much everyone wearing an American uniform in Iraq right now would agree.


47 posted on 07/03/2006 5:07:17 PM PDT by Saije
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To: leadpenny
Yes, he used the excuse that it was a progressive audience for calling the President an idiot.

His book signings for the O'Neill book were quite enlightening. He hates the President and has no respect for him or anyone in this administration.

48 posted on 07/03/2006 5:12:07 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: cardinal4
String'em up. We dont need criminals like this representing America..

Does he get a trial first, or do we assume that whatever Al Jazeera says is the gospel truth?

50 posted on 07/03/2006 5:17:16 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: SE Mom
Yes, the same ol atrocity-trolls do seem to wallow in it, and enjoy these threads...alot.
51 posted on 07/03/2006 5:18:09 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: leadpenny
Maybe not as bad, but the Marines probably have the same problem.

They've got 8 of them locked in the Camp Pendleton brig being charged with similar actions even as we speak.

52 posted on 07/03/2006 5:18:37 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: OldFriend

Um, siphoned gas from a jeep?

I'm more troubled (either way) that if 4 or 5 knew about this, it hasn't come out earlier. On the one hand, that makes the story seem a little fishy. (No sense of right in any of them?) But if they did keep it a secret, well, that's troubling too. (No sense of right in any of them?)Many unknowns, I'm sure it'll all come out...


53 posted on 07/03/2006 5:20:10 PM PDT by Paul R. (June 8, 1966: Tornado removed most of our house, glad we had a basement!)
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To: Thombo2

http://girights.objector.org/gettingout/odpmcfacts.html


54 posted on 07/03/2006 5:20:59 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Cementjungle

Yes, of course. Trial and if he's found guilty, string him up..


55 posted on 07/03/2006 5:21:46 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Allah is the opium pipedream of a desert pedophile...Freeper Ax)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I'll wait for the facts to come out on this before jerking my knee like the other posters did on this thread

I heard a news report on the radio today that he has admitted killing all four and one of his buddies witnessed the rape. If all true, give him to the people in that village

56 posted on 07/03/2006 5:23:13 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Paul R.
If he used gasoline to burn the body why not just say he used gasoline. The language in the complaint just doesn't sound right to me.

I'll wait for the facts, but will not excuse under any circumstances this type of activity if true.

57 posted on 07/03/2006 5:24:04 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: downtownconservative
Can I ask a professional question. The accused was taken into custody and then charged in Federal court.

I would normally think that this guy would be reactivated to face UCMJ charges. Is this federal proceeding normal or would his discharge for this personality disorder prohibit that.

58 posted on 07/03/2006 5:29:15 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: motife

Sounds like a death penalty case to me....personality disorder ain't going to cut it....


59 posted on 07/03/2006 5:30:23 PM PDT by Belasarius (Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
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To: Thombo2

Having discharged a few for that...It basically means non-conformist screw-up. Pain in the ass... ten percenter. It is a dsm-(whatever) psychiatric diagnosis.


60 posted on 07/03/2006 5:33:45 PM PDT by Belasarius (Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
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