Mobile Labs Could Not Have Produced Hydrogen As Described, Prologue

Captain's Quarter's Blog ^ | 7/3/06 | Captain Ed

[Phsstpok]

This issue has been discussed as recently as the Sunday Talk Show thread of a week ago (for example, tarheelswamprat's post #634).  Several folks have taken issue with the "conventional wisdom" that this was "just a hydrogen generator."

Tie this to the disclosure of the 500+ chemical warfare WMD shells that have been found (and covered up by the DBM and dims in Congress) and the house of lies they have been constructing may be crashing about their ears.

Kerry's still lying, how soon will we start dying?

[Phsstpok]

Ping on mobil labs

[Txsleuth]

Dang, Phsstpok.....you have just stretched my mental capabilities with THIS kind of a report...

jeez louise, I still don't get how gas makes a car go...and now THIS???

LOL

[mikeybaby]

Iraqi document translations.
NYT (again) leaking classified info.
"Old" wmd found in Iraq.
Kook Left Wing base revving up.
"Fitzmas" case imploding.
Rove must be rubbing his hands in glee.

[jazusamo]

Ping mobil labs.

[Paladin2]

NYT/MSM "Rut-Roh"

[johnny7]

Neat tag...

[Billthedrill]

33 mil to generate something they get for free? That'd be a government project, all right.

Why in the world would you need a mobile lab to generate hydrogen for weather balloons anyway? They don't have gas bottles in Iraq?

[keithtoo]

I remember also that Coalition Forces found tons of 'insecticide' in hardened bunkers on Iraqi Air Force bases. Now, why any country would find it necessary to store 'civilian' insecticide on a military base is beyond me.

As I understand it, insecticide act is a very similar manner as other nerve agents on the human body, as well as on insects.

This find was immediately dismissed as of no value. That always struck me as absurd.

[Wristpin]

During the first Gulf War they would launch weather balloons to check conditions before Scud launches.

[Perdogg]

I want to know why a fermenter would be used to produce hydrogen.

[Enchante]

Sounds like the "civilian hydrogen for weather balloons" explanation for the mobile labs in Iraq is falling apart, thanks to Captain Ed's physical chemist source and the translations of jveritas!!

Now that Colin Powell has already apologized for his UN presentation, and now that the MSM and whole world takes it as a given that the Bush administration was just making stuff up, how does the truth ever get its shoes on, never mind make it around the world?

[pissant]

ping for later

[razorback-bert]

"They" couldn't go with swamp gas this time, so it was weather balloons again, worked in 1947.

[GSlob]

To obtain hydrogen in the field in sizable quantities [one regular size hydrogen cylinder weighs about 60-70 kg and contains 10 cubic meters of gas [about 1 kg], enough to fill balloons capable of lifting 20-25 pounds] compressed hydrogen emphatically would not do. Chemical production on the spot is much more preferable:
old traditional setup involved using calcium hydride - water sensitive solid - and water: 10 kg of CaH₂ is enough to produce that same 1 kg of hydrogen. Newer setup, using sodium borohydride with water and cobalt or nickel catalysts, needs even less material: only about 5kg of NaBH₄ for the same amount of hydrogen. The equipment does not take much room and is not heavy. Any water- from a creek or a rain puddle - would do.

[Thebaddog]

Is there some higher power or priority that keeps the Bush White House from using this info that they obviously have to justify their decisions to go in to Iraq?

[The Great RJ]

No these trucks were mobile baby milk plants and distributed ice cream ...the MSM told me so it must be true.

[Txsleuth]

The answer is, it doesn't.

I find myself very frustrated at the lack of coverage of all of the documents that have been translated.

MAYBE, someday, if we get into Syria..and can check for weapons...but, even then, I don't know if it would make the front pages....sigh

[Enchante]

I just don't know anymore..... it seems the Bush WH settled a long time ago on the view that it wasn't good to debate the run-up to the war and that they would just "move on"..... for one thing, they want to stay focused upon all the things that are going on all the time, executing now rather than debating the past. But I don't know if anyone there appreciates how badly not just the WH but the USA has been harmed by the very widespread impression that we went to war for at best careless and at worst fabricated intel and judgments about it. It is crucial to set the record straight, though the MSM will have to be dragged kicking and screaming to notice.

[FreeLuna]

I believe Bush is trying to keep things quiet about WMD's to avoid embarrassing and confronting Russia. Honestly, if Americans knew how involved Russia was with Saddam's weapons we would call for all out war. I think Bush believes we can parlay Russia's guilt into cooperation. This is just my theory